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Offline mensa180

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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2007, 01:39:42 PM »
Any new 38 is fine by me...
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2007, 01:55:25 PM »
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LOL! That'd sure piss off the troops. It'd be right up there with the F4U-4 though. Too bad they only built the prototype.
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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2007, 03:57:46 PM »
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Ah, so then the 37mm never saw combat. D's never made it past the ConUS.

So I was one model off, I was working from memory after a 16 hour workday :p



From what I've gathered from Guppy, the 37mm wasn't on any production D model even though the design specs listed the 37mm.


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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2007, 05:35:31 PM »
12x .50s on a P38? RAWR!!! sign me up!  i mean hell, they call it the can opener for two reasons already, 1.  there was an actual can opener designated by the army as the p-38, and with the current gun packages its a beast anyways! RAWR!

oh yeah, not sure but is there a variant that saw combat that had 4x hispano's?
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2007, 06:05:08 PM »
Thanks for the support and keep it coming. It makes me feel better :D

Karnak, my bad... all these years with my face stuck in Spitfire books and i forgot the extra 12 imp. gallon wing tanks in the VIII and E-type armament on the XVI heheh.

Sorry DaddyAck, I really didn't mean to insult the P-38G... in fact, the reason why I started this thread is because I found the P-38G to an extremely fun and useful fighter and was wondering what happened to the H. But your words have kept my hopes up!

Scorp, I'm sure Widewing has some info but I don't believe there were more than 10 of those P-38's. They did enter service, but they were more of a field mod. and no, there were no 4x 20mm P-38's.

But yes. Anyone have some cool pics of the P-38H to add to the forum? To tell you the truth I have no idea what the external differences that distinguish all P-38F's from G's and those from H's. Well, other than the H's slimmer 20mm.
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2007, 01:54:34 AM »
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what about the 38 they had that had the 37mm cannon instead of the 20mm on it?  hell then you got youself a dual engined 109k4 flyign around (yes i know thats a 30mm on the k4 so spare me the critisism).  i think it would just be fun to dive in on a bomber and the guy thinking, oh its just a 38.  few rounds later, 3 37mm cannon rounds rip his wing or fuselage off and he is left floating to the ground going WTF?


Um.. I wreck buffs all the time in my 38, the .50s and the 20mm make easy work of them. :t
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2007, 01:57:04 AM »
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no defense, it would be fodder for any late war fighter.



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And whoom is going to actually intercept me at altitude? I make buff runs at 25K and people are never up there (well sometimes the rooks but...)
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2007, 02:38:54 AM »
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no defense, it would be fodder for any late war fighter.



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I think in WWII the droop snoot lead a group of P-38s. I haven't read much about it, but I seem to recall reading that such missions were successful. So, a droop snoot and P-38 mission could get alt fast, close up in very tight formation, listen to the bombardier call off drop times for targets, and then, unloaded, go fight, and protect the droop snoot. But such missions would take skill. Probably could not justify the resources to develop it for the amount of use it would see.

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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2007, 02:42:57 AM »
they already have the 38J chasis, they just need to slap a glass nose on and add propper bomb site. (I know of squads that would love to do that type of mission)
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2007, 06:30:10 AM »
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Hazard, 38L superstrafer was experimental. It had the ability to have 12x50s, 8 in the nose and 4 in wingpods. I still want it though. :t


No not 12 x 50cals, 8x 50cals. I was under the impression that the earlier P38 variants used to have 8x50cals before the 20mm became standard.

Will try and look up where I read that.:( :o :D
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2007, 07:40:26 AM »
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No not 12 x 50cals, 8x 50cals. I was under the impression that the earlier P38 variants used to have 8x50cals before the 20mm became standard.

Will try and look up where I read that.:( :o :D


Your impression is innaccurate. 4 MGs and a cannon was the standard armament from day 1. Only the size and model of the cannon changed.

There were a few experiments, both official and in the field, to upgun them but the standard arrangement was just about perfect.
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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2007, 10:32:08 AM »
I concede Treize69. You are correct:aok . Just re-read some of my reference books.:cool:

Guess this is what happens when you don't read em for a long time.
:D :o

Dunno how I got that idea.......:p
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« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2007, 10:52:19 AM »
think we will need some of these to get the H model
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« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2007, 11:53:40 AM »
Count me in then.

Those B-25 updates make me want an H even more...
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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2007, 11:58:44 AM »
maybe the leader of a certain 38 secret society
which shall remain nameless:noid
could open up a paypal account to accept donations to buy
the goods"scotch hitech`s weakness" to send the mighty coader
to add are beloved 38h i for 1 would donate:D
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