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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2007, 11:58:35 AM »
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its amazing that they were capatable with the uss enterprises catapult system i though french carriers used ramps or are thes british carriers


british, thai, spanish, italian, russian and indian (soon) cvs use ramps. French use regular catapults
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2007, 12:06:57 PM »
I've always woundered if the French ever used our CVs for operations. Pretty cool to see that.

Now I would love to see a Su-37 land on one of our CVs, but I don't think we could catapult it off :(

Now for an F-18 to land on the DeGaul!
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2007, 12:12:22 PM »
cc thnx nilsen:aok
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2007, 12:31:10 PM »
Great looking plane!  And Angus, how could you miss that one-don't you mean udderly cool?  :rofl
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2007, 12:36:04 PM »
Cool stuff, thanks for posting it.
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2007, 02:25:18 PM »
Nice looking bird. Isn't it getting a bit long in the tooth at this point?
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2007, 03:25:11 PM »
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Nice looking bird. Isn't it getting a bit long in the tooth at this point?


Huh? It entered service a couple of years ago.
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2007, 04:11:34 PM »
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Nice looking bird. Isn't it getting a bit long in the tooth at this point?


Your thinking of the Dassault Etendard/ Super Etendard.
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2007, 04:44:44 PM »
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its amazing that they were capatable with the uss enterprises catapult system i though french carriers used ramps or are thes british carriers


The Royal Navy currently operates 3 Invincible class carriers. This use ramps to launch Harrier GR7s.

Contracts have just been awarded to a consortium led by BAE and Thales to replace these with two new, larger ships operating the STOVL version of F35. These ships will initially have ramps but are being designed to allow conversion to catapult/arrest operations at a later date (i.e. when the F35 is retired).

 There's an interesting article  here about the new ships. Current expectations are that they'll be smalller than Nimitz class boats, but larger than the Charles de Gaulle. It also shows how small the Invincible boats are by comparison.
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2007, 05:20:43 PM »
The Invincible class is more comparable to the USS Wasp class amphibious assault ships (that also carry a number of Harriers in addition to its helicopters). The Invincible is a "budget" carrier.
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2007, 08:46:11 PM »
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Your thinking of the Dassault Etendard/ Super Etendard.


Yup, my bad.   :(
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2007, 09:47:26 AM »
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its amazing that they were capatable with the uss enterprises catapult system i though french carriers used ramps or are thes british carriers


Traditionaly the French carriers used to have a catapult but they attached a steel cable to the catapult/under wings for launch. The cable would then fly into the water.:huh



But on the new carrier, and I bet as a standardization process, they use the :

As a former catapult officer, I can attest how this would have generated a fair amount of interest from the air and flight-deck crews, if for nothing else than to be a break from the every-day monotony of launching flight operations. Having the French carrier Charles De Gaulle's catapult and arresting gear systems designed and installed by our NAVAIR guys and gals from Lakehurst, NJ helps in that the systems used by both French naval aircraft and our our aircraft are similar (if not almost identical).
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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2007, 10:19:20 AM »
Seems like that would make the planes lighter, no need to beef up the nose gear so much.  But perhaps the recycle time between cat shoots is higher?
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2007, 12:13:47 PM »
It's the same set-up used for the F-4 Phantom.
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2007, 05:11:28 PM »
Thx RPM, I didn't know that.
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