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N1K2-J automatic flaps.
« on: August 02, 2007, 11:21:52 PM »
N1K2-J in aces high does not have automatic flap.  I understand that since AH was the first flight sim to model N1K2-J anyway.

N1K2-J's auto-flap is activated by mercury manometer that measures the angle of attack.  This makes the N1K2-J the most potent dogfighter in the late war era.

US tested Japanese fighters during and after WWII.  I wonder if US test pilots mentioned anything about N1K2-J's automatic flaps.

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2007, 12:19:39 AM »
Uh...

I seem to remember the N1K2-J in sims at LEAST as early as Aces of the Pacific. Not to mention Air Warrior. And 1942: Pacific Air War. And Warbirds...
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Re: N1K2-J automatic flaps.
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2007, 01:41:48 AM »
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N1K2-J's auto-flap is activated by mercury manometer that measures the angle of attack.  This makes the N1K2-J the most potent dogfighter in the late war era.



I'll see your auto-flaps and raise you a U.S. tail-warning radar.  They probably worked as well anyway...:aok

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2007, 03:20:29 AM »
From all reports, the auto-flaps on the N1K2 worked quite well.  But if they were to get that in the game then HT must remove the auto-retract feature for all planes that didn't have it.


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Re: Re: N1K2-J automatic flaps.
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2007, 09:11:45 AM »
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I'll see your auto-flaps and raise you a U.S. tail-warning radar.  They probably worked as well anyway...:aok


Better yet, I'll raise you the USAAF G-Suit. By October of 1944, every 8th AF fighter pilot was wearing a pneumatically inflated G-Suit. This allowed them almost 2 additional Gs prior to blackout. This was a major advantage and has been generally overlooked by historians. By 1945, these were being issued to all fighter units in the USAAF.

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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2007, 09:19:25 AM »
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Better yet, I'll raise you the USAAF G-Suit. By October of 1944, every 8th AF fighter pilot was wearing a pneumatically inflated G-Suit. This allowed them almost 2 additional Gs prior to blackout. This was a major advantage and has been generally overlooked by historians. By 1945, these were being issued to all fighter units in the USAAF.


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Re: N1K2-J automatic flaps.
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2007, 11:21:55 AM »
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N1K2-J in aces high does not have automatic flap.  I understand that since AH was the first flight sim to model N1K2-J anyway.

N1K2-J's auto-flap is activated by mercury manometer that measures the angle of attack.  This makes the N1K2-J the most potent dogfighter in the late war era.

US tested Japanese fighters during and after WWII.  I wonder if US test pilots mentioned anything about N1K2-J's automatic flaps.
"Most Potent"?   I'd have to go with the Hellcat in the PTO.   It pwned ANY Japanese fighter.......period.
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Re: Re: N1K2-J automatic flaps.
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2007, 01:03:58 PM »
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"Most Potent"?   I'd have to go with the Hellcat in the PTO.   It pwned ANY Japanese fighter.......period.

Only due to average pilot skill and the lack of effective quality control later in the war.  The N1K2-J and Ki-84 as designed were quite capable of going at it with the F6F.

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2007, 01:29:06 PM »
I'm comparing planes not pilots.   The wing area of the Hellcat was the largest of ANY WWII single engined plane.    

The piss poor production numbers of FLYABLE Nik2-J's do not even allow this fighter to "hold such a title".    Japan chose to start it, they paid in spades.   They banked on "nimble, fast, tight turning, unarmored cockpits and un-sealed fuel tanks" on almost every plane, and it was their undoing.    The US had superior planes to counter ANY Japanese plane produced.
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Re: Re: N1K2-J automatic flaps.
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2007, 02:13:59 PM »
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I'll see your auto-flaps and raise you a U.S. tail-warning radar.  They probably worked as well anyway...:aok


Tail warning radar should be an easy fix.  Think of this as "Automatic Check-6":D

When there's an enemy at your 6 while flying a P-38 for example, this text should appear on yyour text buffer.

TAIL RADAR:  Check 6

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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2007, 04:18:03 PM »
Actually, it should be a Check Six when ANY plane is behind you, bad guy OR friendly. The alarm went off any time ANY plane passed across the rear.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2007, 04:24:32 PM »
How far out did this radar reach?  D600? or something farther out?  I would find it annoying during a vulch fest.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2007, 05:26:34 PM »
The late war G-suits and the gyroscopic gunsights (Gyro II, K-14 ect), were the two most usefull innovations to the Allied fighters in the latter part of the war.

The tail warning receiver was next to useless, from what I have read. I suppose in a night fighter or night bomber there might have been a real use for it, but limited. You would be taking some serious risks relying on that device as info as to wether you were being attacked by an enemy fighter.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2007, 06:17:35 PM »
If you add all that you got to add in the GUIDED BOMB as well.