Author Topic: Best Prop Plane?????? (Read 6644 times)

Benny Moore · « **Reply #150 on:** August 19, 2007, 11:31:20 AM »

The special fuel was not necessary to run at those horsepower ratings (even for long periods of time), according to Vees for Victory. However, the higher grade fuel prevented unnecessary wear and tear on the engine. Thus, the higher manifold pressures were only officially recognized once the higher grade fuel was available.

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Originally posted by Viking
Seems that even without 100/150 fuel the AH Mustang outperforms its real-life counterparts.

Interesting. It does look that way, at first glance. Regardless, that doesn't address the turning problem. Perhaps if both issues were addressed, the P-51 would actually become a viable dogfighting ship and less of a gun-and-run thing.

Widewing · « **Reply #151 on:** August 19, 2007, 11:51:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Cool.

I am however a bit surprised by the modest increase in engine power: Max 1860 hp on Merlin V-1650-7 with 100/150 fuel. I'm also surprised that according to the P-51 150 octane tests at wwiiaircraftperformance the P-51's max speed at 75" boost (150 octane) was only 431 mph, and at 67" boost the top speed was only 426 mph (both speeds are with wing racks as modeled in AH). Also the best speed altitude dropped to 20,600 feet. Even without wing racks the top speed with 70" boost was only 444 mph. Seems that even without 100/150 fuel the AH Mustang outperforms its real-life counterparts.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/p-51b-24771-level-blue.jpg

Tests will vary with the test facility, for various reasons. Let's put up all of the graphs for comparison.

My regards,

Widewing

Angus · « **Reply #152 on:** August 19, 2007, 02:01:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Cool.

I am however a bit surprised by the modest increase in engine power: Max 1860 hp on Merlin V-1650-7 with 100/150 fuel. I'm also surprised that according to the P-51 150 octane tests at wwiiaircraftperformance the P-51's max speed at 75" boost (150 octane) was only 431 mph, and at 67" boost the top speed was only 426 mph (both speeds are with wing racks as modeled in AH). Also the best speed altitude dropped to 20,600 feet. Even without wing racks the top speed with 70" boost was only 444 mph. Seems that even without 100/150 fuel the AH Mustang outperforms its real-life counterparts.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/p-51b-24771-level-blue.jpg

Power curve and torque issue.

Neil Stirling · « **Reply #153 on:** August 19, 2007, 02:02:35 PM »

The wing racks as fitted to the P-51B reduced speed by approximately 12mph, however, those fitted to the P-51D reduced speed by 4mph. http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/p-51-tactical-chart.jpg

Neil.

SPARKY8400 · « **Reply #154 on:** August 19, 2007, 04:58:28 PM »

the F4U is a good plane but the rear veiw is horrable because of the canopy layout so im going with the P-51D on this

Nimrod45 · « **Reply #155 on:** August 19, 2007, 06:56:37 PM »

Hey fellas, this thread was labeled Best Prop Plane?

So why are you even discussing the P-51.
1. LA-7 even if it irritates everyone.
2. LA-5FN it doesn't turn any better than the LA-7
3. Spit XVI
4. F4U-4
5. F6F-5

Okay now feel free to bash me for liking "Uber Planes" whatever that means.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #156 on:** August 19, 2007, 11:48:38 PM »

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Originally posted by SPARKY8400
the F4U is a good plane but the rear veiw is horrable because of the canopy layout so im going with the P-51D on this

51D is badly outclassed. It's a beauty to look at though!

KD303 · « **Reply #157 on:** August 20, 2007, 02:18:03 PM »

Anyone read the classic Alert In The West by Willi Heilmann? As a Staffelkapitan in III./JG 54, it could be said he knew his stuff. This is what he wrote about allied fighters of mid/late 1944.
This was relating to his experience in Western France, before the Green Hearts moved east and got the Dora 9.
"The enemy fighter defence was particularly strong that day, but the most dreaded opponent, the fast, well armed Spitfire, was not so much in eviidence. Not a single Tempest... was to be seen...Mustangs and Lightings were in any case no match for the Focke - provided it was flown by an able pilot. Only the Thunderbolt at great height was something of a headache."

Thought it would be interesting to put forward the opinion of someone who actually fought in combat at the time.

JScore · « **Reply #158 on:** February 03, 2008, 05:00:17 PM »

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Originally posted by AKDogg
I killed a formation of b26's in 1 pass with my f4u-1. Came from the high 1:00 clock postion and shot right in the cockpit. Killed all 3 bombers instantly by pilot wound because when u killed 1 bomber, the other warp right where the lead bomber was but the bullets were still flying at him,lol.

Thats what that was. I did that to a guy the other day, and had no idea what had just happened. Now I do, lol.

Banshee7 · « **Reply #159 on:** February 03, 2008, 06:19:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
The P-38J

No doubt

#S#

Banshee7

Mus51 · « **Reply #160 on:** February 03, 2008, 07:36:35 PM »

F4U-4

Hiya Banshee!