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Offline Sally

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« on: August 08, 2007, 11:52:27 PM »
does anybody fly with these and if so are they worth the price?
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2007, 06:21:48 AM »
Aces High does not use Dolby surround encoding.  The game uses true 3D sound positioning via DirectSound.  No encoding is needed for this.  Just FYI.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2007, 12:48:55 PM »
so are ya saying a 5.1 surround head set won't work in aces high, or it won't be true surround?

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 01:11:54 PM »
If the headset depends on Dolby 5.1 encoding to work, then the surround mode will not work in Aces High II.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007, 08:54:11 PM »
Which format is better, Dolby's 5.1 or 7.1 or the 3D positional audio that DirectSound uses?  Any thoughts about ever incorperating EAX sound?


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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2007, 05:44:26 AM »
DirectSound positioning is the best.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2007, 06:28:05 PM »
I have a Medusa 5.1 surround sound headphone set that plugs into my Sound Blaster Audigy 2 LS 5.1 card. With this hardware, I hear surround sound in AH, along with pretty much all my other games.

I can hear planes climbing into my dead-6 blind spot. I can hear bullets fired behind me to the left or right. It almost isn't fair. To them, I mean. The effect is much more impressive in games like Counter Strike Source and other FPS games.

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2007, 08:38:08 PM »
Every stereo headset ive ever had enabled me to tell the position of a nearby tank....19 bucks
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2007, 12:47:19 PM »
Isnt DirectSound under Vista dead? That might be a factor too.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2007, 03:40:04 PM »
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Every stereo headset ive ever had enabled me to tell the position of a nearby tank....19 bucks



no doubt. ya only have 2 holes on the sides of your head.. a "5.1 surround headset" sounds like a great marketing gimmick.

Surround earbuds might even be better!
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2007, 04:28:09 PM »
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Isnt DirectSound under Vista dead? That might be a factor too.
DirectSound is being emulated under Vista.  MS just routes all the DirectSound calls through the normal Windows Sound API.  It was the only way they could get DRM to work in DirectSound.
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2007, 06:43:47 PM »
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no doubt. ya only have 2 holes on the sides of your head.. a "5.1 surround headset" sounds like a great marketing gimmick.

Surround earbuds might even be better!


Don't be an idiot.

Surround Sound Headphones have multiple speakers inside each of the cups on the side of your head. They aren't "imitating" surround sound; they ARE surround sound. They are the same setup you'd get from a 5.1 speaker set, but instead of placing large speakers all around the room, they are placing small ones all around your ear.

The ones I have from MedUSA contain 4 speakers per ear, each arranged carefully to try to generate separation. There's a subwoofer (or really, a low-frequency-tuned speaker) in the outside part, a rear-sound speaker towards the rear, and then two a general-purpose speakers in the center pointed at your ear canal (one for the center channel, and one for the main left or right channel.)

Sennheiser has a unit that's basically the same setup.

Up until last year, these headphones were banned at most of the top-level CS:S tourneys due to it being too much of an advantage. I don't know if that rule is dropped, but I can tell you that *I* have the advantage over *you* when I'm using them.

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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2007, 07:03:30 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2007, 08:23:20 AM »
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Don't be an idiot.

Surround Sound Headphones have multiple speakers inside each of the cups on the side of your head. They aren't "imitating" surround sound; they ARE surround sound. They are the same setup you'd get from a 5.1 speaker set, but instead of placing large speakers all around the room, they are placing small ones all around your ear.


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How the hell does your ear tell direction?


I've always understood that we perceive the location of sound sources just by the difference in time it takes for a sound to get to each ear. so, you cannot tell if something is directly in front or behind you if you have no other cues i.e. visual, or without tilting your head.


I'm not sure either way, you may be right.. Im gonna do some more reading.
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2007, 10:02:29 AM »
kvuo75, if the enemy is coming at you from the right rear, the right spaeker gets a bit more power, and in llama setup seeing as you have 4 speakers in each ear, they adjust the power in each to fool the ear into hearing from which ever direction they need.

Have you never tried surround sound? gone to a movie theater recently?