A Purely Tactical Reason For Not Gang-Banging

[Stoney74]

Gents,

Beyond the mere sportsman-like facets of not ganging up on someone, there is a great tactical reason not to be part of the school of fish chasing the lone LA-7 around a field.  If you see two or three guys handling an enemy plane, grab some altitude and pick up the next guy that is guaranteed to come in shortly.  Maybe even intercept those bombers that are relatively low at 8,000 feet, but to the mob on the deck, seem stratospheric.

If we can't get sportsmanship, why not just try for sound tactics?  At the most, 2 v 1 odds on inbound bad guys.  Everybody else climb and intercept his buddies that are arriving piece-meal...

Just an idea...

[Gianlupo]

I second that, Stoney! Too many times, when defending a base, I found myself outnumbered just because my 12 mates followed the lone running La7, leaving me to face 4 other incoming bad guys.... hone your SA and tactical skills, gents!

[Castedo]

I say: Nice cheecks!

[Jack16]

Originally posted by Castedo
I say: Nice cheecks!

Lmao!:lol

[crockett]

I hate to see 20 guys on a single con, but one thing you do have to remember. That single con is a threat to every fighter in that area, so any guy that's potentially at risk has the right to kill that target IMO. Why put yourself at risk by not killing a target that 'CAN' kill you?

So if I see a fight where a guy is out numbered then I watch the fight and sit on the side lines 'IF' I have alt and I'm out of danger. However if I'm co alt and in danger I'll try the take the guy out as well.

What I think is funny, is there are a few select guys that fly into the middle of a furball, then try to call out a target and expect everyone else to sit by idle. Ummm hello if you are in a furball it's every guy for himself and they should all be taking any target of opportunity.

I'm all for letting two guys fight it out 1 on 1 and most of the time (unless in a furball) I ask prior to joining an engagement. However a furball isn't the place to expect a 1 on 1 fight.

Back on the topic, depending on the plane I'm flying I quite often sit like a vulcher above a fight waiting for the right time to pick off some unsuspected poor sole. You have to be in the right plane though but it is a good way to rack up some kills.

[Spikes]

Originally posted by crockett
I hate to see 20 guys on a single con, but one thing you do have to remember. That single con is a threat to every fighter in that area, so any guy that's potentially at risk has the right to kill that target IMO. Why put yourself at risk by not killing a target that 'CAN' kill you?

So if I see a fight where a guy is out numbered then I watch the fight and sit on the side lines 'IF' I have alt and I'm out of danger. However if I'm co alt and in danger I'll try the take the guy out as well.

What I think is funny, is there are a few select guys that fly into the middle of a furball, then try to call out a target and expect everyone else to sit by idle. Ummm hello if you are in a furball it's every guy for himself and they should all be taking any target of opportunity.

I'm all for letting two guys fight it out 1 on 1 and most of the time (unless in a furball) I ask prior to joining an engagement. However a furball isn't the place to expect a 1 on 1 fight.

Back on the topic, depending on the plane I'm flying I quite often sit like a vulcher above a fight waiting for the right time to pick off some unsuspected poor sole. You have to be in the right plane though but it is a good way to rack up some kills.

Well Said.

[Masherbrum]

3 guys on a con's 6?    I have screenshots of 12 on my 6, and none of them could get me within a minute's time.   Strich9 dove in and got a couple before they finally got me.

[Gianlupo]

Clerick, I have nothing against fighting many vs one. The point is that, beyond a certain number, being too many becomes just pure idiocy and a tactical suicide: it's simply stupid that 10 or 20 friendlies follow a bandit, exposing themselves or the field they're defending to attack from other bandits/directions.... 4, 5 at most, should be sufficient, the other ones should think about the bigger picture and keep their eyes open for other bandits.

Otherwise, you would frustrate your own purpose, because you would end up concentrating on one single threat (and, let me state this, not such a big threat, to be honest, because if  it has a lot of friendlies around, it can't do much damage or dropping unnoticed on your six), totally ignoring any other threat in the area, possibly much more dangerous that the one you're following.

Just take a look at this movie, you'll understand what I mean in my first paragraph:

Grits vs the Knights' horde

[crockett]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
3 guys on a con's 6?    I have screenshots of 12 on my 6, and none of them could get me within a minute's time.   Strich9 dove in and got a couple before they finally got me.

Well if you watch "Dogfights" on the History Channel last night, you would know it doesn't matter how many guys are on your 6.

According to the world's leading ace fighter pilot (Col. Giora Epstein) in his words, he said it doesn't matter if it's one guy or 16 guys on your six.. Only one can be directly behind you and shoot you.  

lol so as long as you can keep all 12 of them, on your six you aren't in much danger.

[scot12b]

 points up

[Masherbrum]

now that I'm recollecting, Strich9 saved my bacon, but at the cost of a pilot wound, two oil hits, one radiator, both flaps, and an aileron.   I landed the 38J, but it seemed like ages going from A41 to A44 on Baltic.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by Stoney74
Gents,

Beyond the mere sportsman-like facets of not ganging up on someone, there is a great tactical reason not to be part of the school of fish chasing the lone LA-7 around a field.  If you see two or three guys handling an enemy plane, grab some altitude and pick up the next guy that is guaranteed to come in shortly.  Maybe even intercept those bombers that are relatively low at 8,000 feet, but to the mob on the deck, seem stratospheric.

If we can't get sportsmanship, why not just try for sound tactics?  At the most, 2 v 1 odds on inbound bad guys.  Everybody else climb and intercept his buddies that are arriving piece-meal...

Just an idea...

I agree to a point.  

Usually if I'm not engaged I'm climbing for position for the next engagement but if I see 4-5 guys chasing a single con who's got some seperation I'll dive in after him knowing I'll get there before any of the others (who have likely burnt off all their E circling on the deck).

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by scot12b
 points up

You gonna be on tonight?   Be good to have some laughs again. < scot

[bj229r]

I think anytime some puke in a Lghey is spotted, all other gameplay should cease until said puke is hunted down and neutralized:aok

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Gianlupo
I second that, Stoney! Too many times, when defending a base, I found myself outnumbered just because my 12 mates followed the lone running La7, leaving me to face 4 other incoming bad guys.... hone your SA and tactical skills, gents!

I hope your avatar is of a female, if it is, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr, yummy!:aok