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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2007, 12:29:39 PM »
Chairboy,

Thanks for the info, that cleared up some things I was curious about. Seems like a much better idea than staples!
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2007, 12:47:31 PM »
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a little chart to help you figure out how fat you are :)


BMI charts are crap =P They were literally just made up by a statician with no medical background.. iirc.. not too long after the 1900s. Same crap the media uses to perpetuate the lie that obesity is an epidemic. If that chart were right, some of the guys I train with would be "unhealthy" or "obese".. even though they're solid muscle with cardio for days.

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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2007, 12:50:35 PM »
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BMI charts are crap =P They were literally just made up by a statician with no medical background.. iirc.. not too long after the 1900s. Same crap the media uses to perpetuate the lie that obesity is an epidemic. If that chart were right, some of the guys I train with would be "unhealthy" or "obese".. even though they're solid muscle with cardio for days.


for the average person, they are an accurate guideline to try to meet

ps

obesity in this country is an epidemic
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2007, 01:16:34 PM »
You can get yourself looking good if you pick a few exercises and stick with them.  

This is just an example workout that you can do at home.  
You can use dumbells for the presses and arm curls.

Buy a notebook to keep track, and don't cheat.  
Week 1
Push ups - Daily - 25
Pull ups or Presses   - Daily-  10
Chin ups  or Arm Curls - Daily -  10
Sit ups   (Mon,Wed,Fri) -   25
Crunches (Tue, Thur) -  25

Week 2 - Increase all numbers by 5
Week 3 - Increase all numbers by 5
Week 4 -  "             "             "

The object is to workout EVERY DAY, and increase your reps every week.
So by the example above, on week 4 your doing 45 pushups a day.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2007, 01:30:11 PM by Speed55 »
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2007, 01:30:36 PM »
I put a lot of weight on after moving from a manual job to a desk job and then sitting around playing AH all day ;) lol  I haven't played AH for 3 years now and last year I decided to lose weight.  I managed to lose 60 lbs in 5 months initially by changing my eating habits, i.e. eating a healthy breakfast, salad/fruit for lunch and then something like rice & chicken for dinner.  I initially started cycling a few miles a day then, 5 miles, then 8 miles, then 10 miles and then finally 12.5 miles.  I also bought a cross trainer to supplement the exercising.  This year I put about 14 lbs back on but I've just managed to lose that plus another 4 lbs.  I'm now doing 10 miles cycling on a TACX machine before I go to work in the morning and then 36 mins (nearly 5 miles) on a cross trainer at night, plus some dumb-bell work & sit-ups.  I do the cycling & crosstraining everyday unless I'm on holiday or have a bad hangover ;)  I have to say that this is the healthiest I've ever been in my life but with exercise comes little injuries too - two cycling accidents resulted in a damaged knee cartilage but that's just about okay now but I also fractured two ribs in another fall.  I also have to have a hand operation for the same fall.  It can all be a bit exhausting but losing 6 inches on you waist is a good incentive :)  Damn expensive changing your wardrobe though!

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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2007, 01:40:59 PM »
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for the average person, they are an accurate guideline to try to meet

ps

obesity in this country is an epidemic


No, they're not. They're just made up numbers. They just happen to be what the government gave us.

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there is no epidemic. :) it's garbage perpetuated to fuel sales. I have yet to trip over the bodies of all the rapidly expiring fat people. There's a big difference between being grotesquely, health endangering fat, and what the government terms "obese".

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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2007, 03:46:53 PM »
according to eagler's chart I'm obese at 232lbs. yet I can run for an hour without stopping and hardly breaking a sweat.  it seems off or at the very least certainly not applicable across the board.

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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2007, 06:37:55 PM »
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culero, carb addicts?  damn if that don't sound like anti cuban cuisine :lol  it's a foregone conclusion that from here on out my favorite foods are going the way of the dodo where I'm concerned.  I may just go full japanese and start eating bait, anything is better than eating the nutrisystems sauce covered cardboard.  I just ordered the book, thanks for the suggestion.


Welcome. I dunno squat about cubano cuisine, but its DAMN sure anti-meskin :)

The basic routine according to my read and experience is to go "cold-turkey" on the carbs for a few weeks, to break the cycle. Then you add back in a little as you see the weight loss occur, eventually arriving at a balance that combined with your metabolism and lifestyle yields stability at the weight you want.

At first, you're eating like one piece of toast with breakfast, and about that much carb in whatever form you want as a "reward" at the end of the day, nada in between (I went with a coffee cup of ice cream after supper, YMMV). The good side is you replace the food bulk with veggies, meat, eggs, etc - no need to be hungry at all. I found it tolerable, all you have to deal with is carb craving, which isn't that hard (you can combat it with chewing jerky, for instance). Later, you'll be able to eat reasonable amounts of carbs at all mealtimes (just avoid the snacks).

The really interesting aspect is the theory behind it. It seems that carbs are the easiest thing for the body to convert to sugar (muscle energy fuel). If you deny your body that, its forced to work the digestive system harder to fuel your muscles by converting fat, a more complex operation. Thus, you burn fat as you ingest it, preventing it from being stored (your body's natural famine strategy). The way these folks present it, it really makes sense.
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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2007, 01:33:49 AM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
a little chart to help you figure out how fat you are :)



That chart is from like 1955 so total BS

Please dont POST crap to help others if you DONT KNOW 100% WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT

i HAVE BEEN A GYM RAT FROM 16 YEARS OLD (i AM NOW 42  YEARS OLD)
I have trained many many people, and after 26 exp I know for a fact that people (with half facts and half truths even though they had the best intensions have hurt people  more than they ever could help them)

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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2007, 01:45:09 AM »
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BMI charts are crap =P They were literally just made up by a statician with no medical background.. iirc.. not too long after the 1900s. Same crap the media uses to perpetuate the lie that obesity is an epidemic. If that chart were right, some of the guys I train with would be "unhealthy" or "obese".. even though they're solid muscle with cardio for days.


You are correct sir at 6ft tall i weighed 242 lbs I have benched over 425 squated over 600  and dead lifted over 500(free weights)
on machines 600 bench 1840 lbs (and yes I mean 1840 lbs) front squats machine and 800 dead lifts) with a body fat percentage of 10%.

I would have failed the charts for over 15 years.

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« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2007, 05:42:57 AM »
the chart is for the "average" joe - not a hercules like yourself or bruce lee storch

for the MAJORITY of the public sitting at 242lbs with of height of 6ft - I will bet they are obese and unhealthy. The info is not from 1955 but from HERE

one thing you cannot argue about the chart is that if you are in it's "healthy weight" range - you DO NOT have a weight issue (me :) )

indy007 must live in a "skinny" state as every other person I see out in public is overweight if not an obese lard arse which imo makes it an epidemic
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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2007, 06:06:03 AM »
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the chart is for the "average" joe - not a hercules like yourself or bruce lee storch


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BMI has its limitations because it does not measure body fat or muscle directly.


The chart should be ok for 'average' joe...

I think the military uses this data as well.  I remember when I was in the service that any soldier who was over 210 lbs and is 6'4" had to be measured.

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« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2007, 06:39:48 AM »
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You can get yourself looking good if you pick a few exercises and stick with them.  

This is just an example workout that you can do at home.  
You can use dumbells for the presses and arm curls.

Buy a notebook to keep track, and don't cheat.  
Week 1
Push ups - Daily - 25
Pull ups or Presses   - Daily-  10
Chin ups  or Arm Curls - Daily -  10
Sit ups   (Mon,Wed,Fri) -   25
Crunches (Tue, Thur) -  25

Week 2 - Increase all numbers by 5
Week 3 - Increase all numbers by 5
Week 4 -  "             "             "

The object is to workout EVERY DAY, and increase your reps every week.
So by the example above, on week 4 your doing 45 pushups a day.


Ha! I'd be willing to bet you a weeks pay 80% of the people that play this game couldn't do 10 real pushups! We'll test this thoery out at the next con... and bring me my money!

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« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2007, 07:41:21 AM »
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Ha! I'd be willing to bet you a weeks pay 80% of the people that play this game couldn't do 10 real pushups! We'll test this thoery out at the next con... and bring me my money!


my guess is that they'd be rocking on their belly before their arms reached the ground :)
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« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2007, 08:14:28 AM »
irrespective of the validity of the chart one has but to walk the mall on any given evening and you can't help but see how bad of a physical shape we are in.  what's worse is the kids I don't think there have been so many rotund children anywhere, ever.  it's obesity, it's alarming and it's epidemic.

I'm 5-10 weighing in today at 231lbs. I'm feeling much better and needing to buy need clothes but I do consider myself obese and the weight simply needs to come off and I must keep it off or at some point in the future go on stronger blood pressure medication, become diabetic and all the other complications that are consequential to making unwise lifestyle choices.

eagler I'm not bruce lee I'm not even chinese silly plus bruce lee was uber skinny.

VWE you are correct about the pushups and it's not just the players here but 80% of the population including kids in school.

we are soft physically and mentally. we are also fat.