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[Gunthr]

visceral fat .... i think my buddy has this.   he has a big fat hard round pot belly.  when he thumps it, it sounds like a watermelon.  that can't be good.

he had a real bad comb over too, until one day he bent over too far and it unfolded out like an accordian, or like wallet photos, about 4 feet long, growing from the side of his head.  i razzed him so bad he shaved his head and now he looks like a million bucks and its low maintenance.  

i think im going to razz him into going on the low carb diet.   can't hurt...

[Speed55]

Originally posted by VWE
Ha! I'd be willing to bet you a weeks pay 80% of the people that play this game couldn't do 10 real pushups! We'll test this thoery out at the next con... and bring me my money!

Could be, but it's never to late to start.

[storch]

Originally posted by Gunthr
visceral fat .... i think my buddy has this.   he has a big fat hard round pot belly.  when he thumps it, it sounds like a watermelon.  that can't be good.

he had a real bad comb over too, until one day he bent over too far and it unfolded out like an accordian, or like wallet photos, about 4 feet long, growing from the side of his head.  i razzed him so bad he shaved his head and now he looks like a million bucks and its low maintenance.  

i think im going to razz him into going on the low carb diet.   can't hurt...

if he gets an ultrasound and the doc interprets the image to him it's very sobering.  I don't know if that's standard practice.  my doc did it possibly because I was discounting his opinion and he was bothered by my response.

[Gunthr]

my doctor was eventually able to get my attention too Storch, but regarding diabetes.  Good luck on the running.  its a very effective workout time-wise, but I can't do it because of bad knees.  luckily, i can work my major muscle groups pretty well on my bicycle.  i wear eight pounds on each ankle and do 14 miles 4 days a week.  thank goodness for Ipods.



should add i've been doing the low carb thing for a while.  high fructose fruits like juicy peaches are a treat for me.  i really like things like steamed fresh spinach, kale, fresh string beans, plenty of veggies, lots of grilled fresh fish,  i have a pizza or blackbean/rice blow out now and then.  hot sauce/wassabi helps me.

[storch]

I have a bike but I can't ride it for long without causing pain in my groin.  I get a pinched nerve or something and it's over with the bike.  because of my torn achilles tendon and the subsequent improper healing I run with short strides so not very fast but never the less my heart rate gets up to 160 or so and my blood pressure drops to 106/60 or so after the workout.  by running I have been able to go from two medications taken once daily each to just one prior to bed time.

I'm hoping that by getting down to 175/180 lbs I might be able to come off of the blood pressure medication altogether.

the doc says that I respond very well to exercise and that it will need to be a daily routine for the rest of my life.

I have a nice set of weights/equipment and I do a very limited amount of resistance work but don't like it because it tends to limit my flexibility but the doc says that as I age resistance will become increasingly more important in maintaining muscle mass as the aging process tends to atrophy muscles naturally.

[Gunthr]

getting the heart rate up means everything for the training effect - you know - that feeling that you're getting in shape with lower resting bp.

[68ROX]

Two words......Chromium Picolinate.

I used to be a Super-Heavyweight class wrestler.  My wrestling weight was about 275...working out everyday but Sunday.  After I retired (The USA boycotted the 1980 Moscow Olympic Games, and I had no intention of waiting around until the LA games in '84)...I balooned up to about 375.

In 1994, I was sick and tired of being large.  I started Slim-Fast, and began walking.  Started the first day at 12 blocks...16 months later it was 5 miles.

I mentioned my diet on the air one day (self depricating humor)...I get a call on the request line.  Turns out a few of my listeners are pharmacists at the Duke University Hospital in Durham (World famous for the Duke Diet Center).  He tells me about chromium picolinate, and how it "lies" to your blood sugar level (keeping it level, instead of peaks and---the valleys that tell your brain you are hungry.)

I thought the guy was bonkers, but I decided to give it a try.

The directions on the bottle are BS...I'd take 12 in the morning and not even THINK of being hungry until 6-7PM in the evening.

Between the Slim-Fast, walking, and the chromium...I lost 191 lbs on 16 months.

If you look at the label of those super expensive diet pills, the first ingredient in most cases is....chromium picolinate.  You gan get a bottle of 500 mU's at Walmart of about 5 bucks.

I have gained 20 of it back, but am in the process of losing that back down.

It will probably take 3 or 4 months, but will be worth it.

Good luck to all in the struggle with the scale.

68ROX

[storch]

my pharmacist suggested the same about chromium picolanate

[Maverick]

What did he /she say about the dosage though? Taking 12 sounds pretty extreme and I'd be concerned about any side effects or other physiological changes from a high dosage.

[storch]

if you are asking me I didn't pursue the suggestion.  what I'm currently doing is working well and I'm going to continue.  the doc has me modifying my eating with the same caloric intake but much more frequent "snacking" so I'm not hungry all day long.  also monday will be three weeks and I'm becoming accustomed to the smaller portions I'm eating.

I feel weaker though, I'm hoping this is just part of the process and that I will become adapted to the changes.

it might also be that I now have 26lbs less of body mass to apply at a physical task.

[Maverick]

It really was aimed at both of you actually. Thanks for the answer.

The weakness might also be because you are still adjusting to a lower blood sugar count. Burning fat doesn't produce the same amount of energy as what your body was used to before. The changes will take some time for you to acclimate.

I'm curious about this as my step daughter has a weight problem and may end up needing some help like the lap band or something else. Simply dieting isn't getting it done for her.

[indy007]

Originally posted by Eagler
indy007 must live in a "skinny" state as every other person I see out in public is overweight if not an obese lard arse which imo makes it an epidemic

I'm pretty far from hercules I bench a whopping 155, 10 pounds over my bodyweight. I live in what is supposed to be on the fattest cities on the planet... and you see it sometimes, but it's not a glaring %. I dunno, maybe the really fat people are inside soaking up the a/c? Lived in Tampa & Houston each for a decade. On average, I'd say Texans are generally bigger... not so much fatter... just larger all around.

I just don't see it as an epidemic. Yeah, some people have problems and need to exercise.. but an epidemic? Nah... about as much chance of obesity being an epedimic as man melting the planet in the next 10 years with co2.

[Masherbrum]

I weighed in at the Powerhouse Gym on Monday - 268

Today - 255.    I worked out maybe 4 hours total this week.   Stayed away from bad foods.


I'm liking this.

[68ROX]

Originally posted by Maverick
What did he /she say about the dosage though? Taking 12 sounds pretty extreme and I'd be concerned about any side effects or other physiological changes from a high dosage.

I have talked to multiple physicians about chromium, and none have had any misgivings.

Chromium is naturally found in lobster, so if you are alergic to lobster/shellfish, consult with your physician first.

His instructions were 2-3 when I got up and 2 hours before lunch and dinner.  Since I did Slim-Fast for Breakfast & Dinner, this worked out great.

The 2-3 a day on the bottle just didn't cut it for me.

I "worked" my way up to 10-12 in the morning (I wouldn't advise taking that many right off the bat), and DID NOT feel at all hungry until 6 or 7 PM.

Don't take it on an empty stomach...a full 8 oz glass of vegatable juice or water worked for me.

There are no adverse side effects.  It's just like vitamins, your body "eliminates" what you do not metabolize (in other words, you urinitate what your body doesn't need.)

If you DO take it in larger doses, sometimes you might get a little red in the face.  

It has been know to turn folks who take it regularly into horndogs.  


BTW: WTG Masherbrum!!!!



68ROX

[lazs2]

Little over 6' tall and about 190.

lifetime of hard labor followed by a desk job for 10 years.   I am about 10-15 lbs over the weight that was the best shape I was ever in which was... pretty good.

I don't feel too bad.. I am retirement age and I eat what I want....

I exercise daily and am a naturally hyper type.

Got big mirrors on the closet.. when I have to look at myself getting ready for the shower... that makes me think about it a little more.   Pants getting tight is unacceptable.

I do notice that most of the fat people I know don't move much.   The complain if I don't look for that parking spot 30' from the door to a store.   They say they don't eat much but seem to be eating all the time to me.   things like potato chips and such.

lazs