End of Proxy kills! Give the Ack Weenies their credits!

[sparow]

Hi all,

I believe that proxy kills are a very unfair thing. Several times I have benefited from this but I hate it. There is no point in getting a kill without, at least, landing a .303 on his machine...

And, also, it's very annoying when the ackweenies do all the work and a close-by eye-witness gets the kill...

End the Proxy kills! Give the Ack-Weenies credit for their kills!

Make people fight for their kills, not hug ack!

Cheers,

[Krusty]

Folks don't hug ack to deny kill rights. They hug ack so the enemy dies.

Kill message or no, they're still going to hug ack.


Instead, you just have to tell all the morons that go diving into it looking for a cheap pick/vulch to STOP going into the ACK!!!


HTC increased ack potency recently, when he added more ack guns to the fields. Just stay OUT of it, dadgummit! Problem solved!

[sparow]

Hi,

Not ranting against ack-huggers. I really feel proxy kills are unfair and undeserved kills.

The other day I was chasing a buff formation and got kills just because I was there...Not a single shot fired. This is not fair.

Giving ack-weenies credit for their kills, well, would be a way to avoid giving them to who does not deserve them at all.

Ack-huggers may do whatever they like, have nothing to do with that. But I surely qould feel better if the message was: Sparow was shot down by the Ack-Weenies...

Cheers,

[SkyRock]

Proxies do not count towards perks or score, so why do you care about it?   If you got 3 kills you did not deserve and you're having moral issues about it, then just don't land them!  Prob solved!:aok

[Curval]

How else can you get kills in a goon?

[kilz]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Proxies do not count towards perks or score, so why do you care about it?   If you got 3 kills you did not deserve and you're having moral issues about it, then just don't land them!  Prob solved!:aok

proxys count towards kill to death and kill per sortie

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by kilz
proxys count towards kill to death and kill per sortie

No, they do not!  Only if you actually hit them with something!

[Oleg]

Originally posted by sparow
End the Proxy kills! Give the Ack-Weenies credit for their kills!

I think you will change you mind after your 20th victim will dive in your acks just to give them kill not you.

They will do it, believe me.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by SkyRock
No, they do not!  Only if you actually hit them with something!

You are wrong. They are kills just like any other for K/D purposes. They just don't give you perk points.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by Lusche
You are wrong. They are kills just like any other for K/D purposes. They just don't give you perk points.

Correct.

[Krusty]

I'm pretty sure that's not so...

They may show in the breakdown of kills per plane (expanded stats) but they aren't counted in your score stats. I recall getting some proxies but not having them show up in score more than once, but this was some time ago.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Krusty
I'm pretty sure that's not so...

They may show in the breakdown of kills per plane (expanded stats) but they aren't counted in your score stats. I recall getting some proxies but not having them show up in score more than once, but this was some time ago.

Wrong.

The kills that do not count for K/D purposes are GV kills in fighter mode. Proxies do.

When I got a proxy kill on BaldEagl yesterday (he augered), that kill did improve my K/D stat.

[Gulp]

Ack kills would be better off with just a "You have been killed by AcK", but flying people into the ground should still count as a proxy.

I'm usually the one stalling and eating earth, but it's because I had to be at the edge of the envelope during a fight and the guy that out flew me deserves it.  Once in awhile it's the other guy augering and I have no problem being given the kill.

[Chalenge]

I dont believe the word unfair is appropriate in the original post. Especially when joined by the word very. I think you should lose some perks or something for using them together in a whine like that.

[Scca]

Originally posted by Krusty
I'm pretty sure that's not so...

They may show in the breakdown of kills per plane (expanded stats) but they aren't counted in your score stats. I recall getting some proxies but not having them show up in score more than once, but this was some time ago.

I agree..

I was lucky enough to get 3 proxies in a C-47 the other night.  I was on the ground at a V base dropping troops.  When we got the base, 3 osties got taken out and I got the kills.  

If you will look here Scca's Scores you will see I have 1 bomber kill.  If you go here "Kills" link at bottom of page You will see I have 3 C-47 kills (it's a bomber right?) and 5 Ship Gunner kills for a total of 8.  At the bottom of the page there is a comment "Total Kills not counted towards Rank", that equals 8.

Sounds to me, you may get name in lights credits, but nothing towards rank for proxy kills if you had no effect on their demise.

I am guessing if you put a signal round into them, and they crash, you will get the credit for rank purposes.  The one acception is ship gunner/ground gun kills.  They don't count toward rank because you can't "die".