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Offline RATTFINK

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« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2007, 10:34:49 PM »
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I know the American mindset is to support your government in war ... misguided patriotism and all. However the Spanish government involved the Spaniards in an illegal war they wanted nothing to do with, and after the March 11 attack they even lied and tried to use the attack for their own political agenda. Unlike the American public the Spaniards are not as stupid as to let something like that go unpunished. Spain has been a democracy for only 30 years now, perhaps they are not as complacent and decadent about their freedom as you people seem to be.
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You know I, as an American, had this long and brilliant response to this post but decided that you put so much effort and time into this all I need to say is <>  and GFY for taking the time to post this...

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You know I, as an American, had this long and brilliant response to this post but decided that you put so much effort and time into this all I need to say is <> :aok  and GFY for taking the time to post this...



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« Reply #61 on: August 22, 2007, 01:18:21 AM »
AT LEAST SOME IN HERE ARE NOT BLIND


as far as the truth goes about GOD    
 proving  or disproving  
once you have felt him there is no need for physical proof
for those that have you are blessed
those that have not  i pray that you do
 

    when they start sticking microchips in us you guys gonna be ok with that too?

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« Reply #62 on: August 22, 2007, 08:55:43 AM »
ink... you need to go to the "lazs is gonna have a meltdown" thread and show em what a real meltdown is all about!

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« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2007, 01:22:31 PM »
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The towers fell due to fire.


I'd never seen that video of WTC7 fall before... It wasnt hit by a plane & had only a few floors on fire, yet it crumbled... it just looks odd.

I don't know when steel melts, or how hot two jet liners must get before every minute shred is completely vaporized, or how the terrorists knew on 911 Dick Cheney would be running a NORAD excersize that overwhelmed their ability to respond ... not in my field of expertise.

But hey, the .gov has a neat explanation that I should believe because as we all know, our .gov never lies... just because other .govs have used the same tactic and our .gov drafted "Operation Northwoods"... meaningless? yea maybe, but maybe not.

I think some future beings will one day dig up our ancient "human" civilization remains and see that although we were highly intelligent, we were easily manipulated (divide & conquer) by elaborate myths and could be fooled into believing almost anything as long as it was delivered in the proper format, epically if it comes from an "authority". If the authorities say its true, it must be so.. all other ideas are conspiracy based.

We're happier being ignorant sheep going about our daily routines, seeking the safety of the herd both physically and in thought. Questioning whats going on around us, or challenging the .govs facts would take too much time away from the important things, like playing AH, watching porn and getting laid.

I'm that sheep, too busy pursuing my own good times to investigate or care about the .govs story..  but I wouldn't put it past the neo-clowns to start a war they needed to advance their agenda, but for now I go along with accepted story.. it's just easier to get through the day not thinking about our own .gov killing us off like ants to further some lame agenda.

Very entertaining movie tho.

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« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2007, 03:46:41 PM »
for now i live this life hope beyond hope that my kids dont get beguiled by it.
one day though this will change .  IE...    they   start to put chips in us  at that point i WILL NOT accept it.  
i will die first.  
   if GOD deams me worthy to enter into his rest before the end  AWESOME
If i have to live through it    (the end)  then i will do my best to live up to GODs expectations of me,   one of his children.    
  i will not accept the #  of the beast.

and pray that non of you are deceived.

peace

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« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2007, 05:52:31 PM »
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Originally posted by ink
for now i live this life hope beyond hope that my kids dont get beguiled by it.
one day though this will change .  IE...    they   start to put chips in us  at that point i WILL NOT accept it.  
i will die first.  
   if GOD deams me worthy to enter into his rest before the end  AWESOME
If i have to live through it    (the end)  then i will do my best to live up to GODs expectations of me,   one of his children.    
  i will not accept the #  of the beast.

and pray that non of you are deceived.

peace



Wow, Left-wing and a religious nut-job.
I'll give you 10 pionts.
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« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2007, 06:16:59 PM »
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It was not going to be an affirmation of your opinion of America and Americans.


Ok, thanks. :)

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« Reply #67 on: August 24, 2007, 08:17:07 AM »
they lost me when they dredged up the kennedy shooting.

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« Reply #68 on: August 24, 2007, 10:58:51 AM »
Dont be lossed bro. Cause this rides gonna get moving fast.



:aok
Forgot who said this while trying to take a base, but the quote goes like this. "I cant help you with ack, Im not in attack mode" This is with only 2 ack up in the town while troops were there, waiting. The rest of the town was down.

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« Reply #69 on: August 24, 2007, 11:51:32 AM »
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Originally posted by Bluedog

I personally think the beginning of that movie has a lot going for it, the explanation of how the same story/ideal has been in circulation for a lot longer than 'Christianity' as we think of it has been around, with just the names changed to suit the audience, I find very interesting.

I have long felt that the Bible was less of a factual account of events, and more of a set of morals and ideals, 'packaged' in stories surrounding people and places that it's original intended audience could relate to.



Just a note on presuppositions and how they influence our view of the "Facts"

For example. There are allot of Flood Legends, nearly every culture has one.

That is a "Fact". Now, on to the issue of how we "interpret that fact" and how that interpretation is influenced by our presupposition.

If you start with the view that the Bible is NOT accurate, but a collection of stories. The you might view these "Flood Legends" as support of you position. The Flood in the Bible has it's roots in the Babylonian flood legend of Gilgamesh.

However, if I start with from the position that the Bible is accurate. What would I expect to find? Well I would expect to find, flood legends in every culture. (Because according to the Bible, everyone alive today, is a descendant of Noah and his three sons) I would expect to find some of these legends to be very similar to the Bible account of the flood. (Some of the oral stories would be better preserved than others.) I would expect to find the Biblical account, to be among the "The Most" believable. Well guess, what we find, Exactly what I just described. (This does not "Prove" the Bible is true, just as claiming the Biblical flood is just a story, based on Babylonian legend, doesn't "Prove" it's false.)

The same is true of religious ideas and concepts. There are many that are very similar, but if they all "originated" with Noah, this is exactly what we would expect to find. Furthermore, since the nation of Israel was not founded for some time after the flood. I would expect to find flood legends, and religious ideas and concepts, very similar to the "True" accounts which are recorded in the Bible; and I would expect to find some of those recorded, prior to the recording of the accurate account (the one found in the Bible)



The point being, whether we like to admit it or not our presuppositions greatly  effect how we view the "Facts". We all have the same "Facts" many times the difference in our conclusions is in how we "View" those facts.


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« Reply #70 on: August 30, 2007, 06:54:21 AM »
I watched the whole thing.

It's not about religion or politics as some of you have written but about the true managers of all power here. They call them “the men behind the curtain”.

I didn't know what the religious part was meant to suggest until about half way through.
No Heaven no hell, nothing to fear. It seemed to give a slight indication of how the truly elite holding all power on Earth in their plethora of knowledge, might perceive life. You can be your own god.

The 911 inquirer’s tried to make connections with past wars and its true beneficiaries. It points a finger at men of even higher greed and power than the dictators, rulers or presidents they cater to.

The movie seems to successfully expose them but can offer no solution. They’ve successfully become their own entity at the very pinnacle of society.

It only makes sense, if you control money, you control the world. Nothing of significance can be beyond your possession or control. They claim more than 60 years in the making of this progression to a one world order controlled by the leaders of international banking.

 I had no idea that the Federal Reserve was a corporation or that the income tax law was passed illegally to help pay back interest earned on money borrowed from them.
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« Reply #71 on: August 30, 2007, 08:24:32 AM »
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Originally posted by ink
this is funny most of you of are not willing to watch something that might open your eyes,
   
    watch the video and tell me that the towers fell due to fire
its total bull,
     
      if you are a terrorist  why would you do something on a day that every one knows,  9/11     911    
  that is our emergency phone #
only our government is that screwed up,to think they can decieve the people,

  but damm whatya know....   they believed us.       lol


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« Reply #72 on: August 30, 2007, 08:27:48 AM »
"don't get lossed bro"

Ok... now you really did lose me.   If you are all I have to keep up with then it will be either childishly simply or childishly impossible for me to keep up.

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« Reply #73 on: August 30, 2007, 12:01:35 PM »
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watched about 15 minutes then skimmed.

He claims that every institution including religion and government lies to us and does not care about us... only power and more power.

He claims that everyone lies to us... except him... that the truth is out there but that only he knows it... only he knows what god really is and only he can see through all the other institutions BS.

I agree with about everything he says except that he knows the truth.

I am the only one who knows what god is and what the truth is and he is lieing to you.

lazs


Lazs,
I ran out of candles for your shrine at the house could you send more please.
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