Author Topic: AA-12 Automatic Shotgun. (Read 1147 times)

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #45 on:** August 16, 2007, 12:49:51 PM »

I can't believe no one here remembers the post about this cop. I've tried searching, but I cant find it.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #46 on:** August 16, 2007, 02:35:13 PM »

I understand how gas systems work, I just didn't know they worked with shotguns.

Wilfrid · « **Reply #47 on:** August 17, 2007, 02:38:48 AM »

This shotgun has been mated with a remote control helicopter.

Link here

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The good folks at NRI have been hard at work to develop a larger, faster, more powerful, and more highly-developed AutoCopter Gunship that takes performance up a big notch. This new unmanned helo is powered by a kerosene-fueled turbine engine and can carry two MPS AA-12 Machine Shotguns, and more electronics (avionics, cameras, sensors, etc.).

Folks, meet the up-weaponized “first draft” prototype NRI Weaponized AutoCopter Explorer helicopter SUAS (Small Unmanned Aircraft System). The photos accompanying this article are exclusive to DefenseReview, so you're seeing and reading about it here, first.

When I asked Mr. Aukamp what he thought of the FRAG-12's best delivery/launching platform, the AA-12 Combat Shotgun, he replied "I love that gun. The gun is well made, and it fires great. Last week, we had a guy here from the Army, and he thought it looked like a great weapon."

Expect to see this platform controlling crowds over major cities soon

ariansworld · « **Reply #48 on:** August 17, 2007, 07:25:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
A shotgun is no more effecting in "clearing a room" than any other firearm is. In many cases it's rather awkward since it's a long arm. At typical room dimension you are not sweeping and area, you are still point shooting with a weapon where the shot pattern is only about 1" across. In other words you still have to aim just as much to get a hit. The shot gun is not a guarantee of a hit and you can't miss fast enough to win a gun fight.

That is what sawed off shotguns are for?

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #49 on:** August 17, 2007, 08:55:34 AM »

Sawed off shotguns are more easily concealed and can be aimed in confined quarters.

Isn't the rule of thumb, that for every yard the pellets of a shotgun travel, they increase in dispersion by 1 inch?

Dichotomy · « **Reply #50 on:** August 17, 2007, 09:53:32 AM »

just think how many good snakes could be made with that monster

Maverick · « **Reply #51 on:** August 17, 2007, 11:36:14 AM »

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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Sawed off shotguns are more easily concealed and can be aimed in confined quarters.

Isn't the rule of thumb, that for every yard the pellets of a shotgun travel, they increase in dispersion by 1 inch?

1. Sawed off shotguns are shorter but they are still long arms compared to a pistol and require 2 hands to operate. This makes them less than ideal in real close quarters.

2. It is correct that the pattern spreads about 1" per yard traveled. That means in a typical room of about 10' the pattern would be about 2 inches across. Very easy to miss if not aimed. The pattern does not spread uniformly or only from side to side. It also spreads vertically.

Using a sawed off shotgun, particularly one with the stock severely shortened, means you will be shooting from the hip since you can no longer shoot aiming down the barrel as you would with a full size stock. Shooting from the hip is not as easy as hollywierd makes it look. It's very easy to miss at 21' (7 yards) particularly under stress.