Theft, The Law, and Justice...

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by rpm
I hate a theif, always have. Yesterday I get a heads-up from the store acoss town that a shoplifter was stealing steaks. I check my surveillence and sure enough, he has hit me for about $300 in beef stuffed down his pants. Yep, $300 in his pants.

I call the local PD and file a report. The cop tells me, "If he comes in again call us and we can ID him, but we can't arrest him". WTF:huh
I have him on video commiting a crime and they can't arrest him??? What kind of message does this send to the community?

Reap what you sow, lefty.   Vote for liberals, get this.  I love it.

[AKIron]

I worked at place that was broken into at night and computers were stolen. The guy parked his car in a place that the cameras got his plate. The cops were waiting at his house a morning or two later and caught him with newly stolen computers.

The tape can be presented to a jury but unless the video shows him put the steaks in his pants and then exit the store you don't have proof he stole them. He could say he put them in his pants but paid for them before leaving the store.

[storch]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
Reap what you sow, lefty.   Vote for liberals, get this.  I love it.

steve are you saying that just because he's politically nieve he deserves to be a victim of crime?

[moot]

Iron, wouldn't that imply that the store edited its sales/inventory records?

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by storch
steve are you saying that just because he's politically nieve he deserves to be a victim of crime?

I'm saying that there is a certain grim satisfaction in knowing that these leftist nutjobs suffer some consequences for their ignorance.
Deserve?   Yes. literally.

[texasmom]

Put this sign in the window:  
Shoplifters will be killed and eaten.

[texasmom]

Originally posted by AKIron
The tape can be presented to a jury but unless the video shows him put the steaks in his pants and then exit the store you don't have proof he stole them. He could say he put them in his pants but paid for them before leaving the store.

Register receipts could easily dispute that claim ~ that's the purpose for time & date stamps.

[Fulmar]

Originally posted by rpm
I hate a theif, always have. Yesterday I get a heads-up from the store acoss town that a shoplifter was stealing steaks. I check my surveillence and sure enough, he has hit me for about $300 in beef stuffed down his pants. Yep, $300 in his pants.

I call the local PD and file a report. The cop tells me, "If he comes in again call us and we can ID him, but we can't arrest him". WTF:huh
I have him on video commiting a crime and they can't arrest him??? What kind of message does this send to the community?

Put the video on Youtube, they've caught other criminals this way.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by moot
Iron, wouldn't that imply that the store edited its sales/inventory records?

Steaks may have been stolen by someone else.

[storch]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
I'm saying that there is a certain grim satisfaction in knowing that these leftist nutjobs suffer some consequences for their ignorance.
Deserve?   Yes. literally.

kinda harsh steve, just saying.

[moot]

That only works out in his favor if there is a larger number of unaccounted steaks than hamburglar carried.

[texasmom]

Originally posted by moot
That only works out in his favor if there is a larger number of unaccounted steaks than hamburglar carried.

LOL ~ hamburglar

[AKIron]

Hehe

Just because there may be steaks unaccounted for is not proof this guy left without paying for them nor would be the fact that he might not have a receipt for those he stuffed down his pants on camera. Do you keep all your shopping receipts?

My wife occasionally opens a bottle of water in the store and drinks from it. On camera it might look like she is stealing it but she pays for it when she leaves the store even if it's an empty bottle.

Don't get me wrong. I'm confident the guy stole them but Cops can't arrest everyone merely on suspicion.

[moot]

Dang, that's right..
Theft is taking those steaks from where RPM put em and out of the store without paying for them.  So wouldn't a continuous recording of those very steaks from their arrival on the shelves, into his pants, and from there straight out the store past the registers be proof enough?
All there'd need to be is enough cross-reference to validate the recording's continuity.  All he has to do is walk past the registers once for it to be theft.

If the video surveillance was airtight, it would probably be possible to keep a tally of steaks substracted from the shelves versus those paid for at the cashiers'.  Barring any other thefts, those steaks would be the only ones AWOL.

[68Hawk]

If they can't arrest him for stealing when you've caught it on you own video,  an they arrest you for clubbing him with a baseball bat?

Technical problems with your recording device may just decide to occur as you do this......