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Offline AKIron

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« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2007, 10:58:19 PM »
Just be glad they aren't all democrats rpm or it would somehow be your fault you were stolen from. ;p

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Ah, I knew this was coming. One small problem with your theory Steve-O, I live in the heart of the Republican belt...Texas.
Governor? Republican.
Lt. Governor? Republican.
Speaker of the House? Republican.
State Represenative? Republican.
County Judge? Republican.
County Sheriff? Republican.
County Court at Law Judge? Republican.
District Attorney? Republican.
County Attorney? Republican.
Justice of The Peace? Republican.
Mayor? Republican.
City Council? All Republicans.

Chew on that a while and tell me how it's the fault of Democrats. I have faith you will be able to spin it hard enough to completely exonerate all the above mentioned politicians....Republican politicians.
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« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2007, 10:59:24 PM »
I don't know, rpm. No decent person likes a thief, but I can't understand why you take shoplifting as a personal affront. The cost of pilferage is included in the price, and your store would be an anomaly if more was lost from shoplifting than from employee theft. It isn't personal and not worth the anxiety. You weren't going to resell the steaks that were down his pants, were you?

I think we consumers have just as much reason to be angry at all the shenanigans going on behind the meat counter - the mislabeling of dates, color added to make the old steaks look fresh, water added to raise the weight and price of ground beef, chemical and hormone additives, gas-flushed meat without any consumer warnings.

It could be argued that grocers and their meat departments are not morally superior to shoplifters.

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« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2007, 11:01:51 PM »
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mislabeling of dates, color added to make the old steaks look fresh, water added to raise the weight and price of ground beef, chemical and hormone additives, gas-flushed meat without any consumer warnings.


Say it ain't true rpm!
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« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2007, 11:16:06 PM »
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I don't know, rpm. No decent person likes a thief, but I can't understand why you take shoplifting as a personal affront. The cost of pilferage is included in the price, and your store would be an anomaly if more was lost from shoplifting than from employee theft. It isn't personal and not worth the anxiety. You weren't going to resell the steaks that were down his pants, were you?

I think we consumers have just as much reason to be angry at all the shenanigans going on behind the meat counter - the mislabeling of dates, color added to make the old steaks look fresh, water added to raise the weight and price of ground beef, chemical and hormone additives, gas-flushed meat without any consumer warnings.

It could be argued that grocers and their meat departments are not morally superior to shoplifters.
Rolex, I find any theft of property I'm placed in care of a personal affront. Theft, or shrinkage as we call it, is a part of doing business. In this case it takes nothing out of my pocket, only my boss'. But my job is loss prevention, among other things. I do good work, very good work. Watching some fool who is too lazy or drug addicted to work walk out the door with goods I'm responsable for just chaps my arse. For law enforcement to take a gift wrapped package like this and do diddly squat just makes it worse.

What kind of message is this sending to our community and our children? Knowing you will not be arrested for breaking the law is literally a license to steal.
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« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2007, 11:29:28 PM »
You aren't to blame for the ills of society, rpm. All the energy you use trying to put him in the criminal justice system isn't going to change anything. He's probably been in it before. Everyone knows that the system sucks, so no message is needed.

Unless you're willing to invest in renovating  the store to move all the high-profit items next to the register, install tags and detectors, strip search customers, install more cameras, hire guards for every aisle or install x-ray scanners, let it go. Your bosses know you aren't responsible for society, either... I hope. ;)

Billions are stolen every year by people wearing ties. A few steaks aren't that big of a deal.

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« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2007, 11:49:50 PM »
Print a picture of the thief while he was stuffing the meat in his pants, post it at the entrance and near the meat section.


You can blur his face a bit and put text underneath

Big Brother is Watching You

(and put that image gif of handcuffs below it).


That should work.

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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2007, 11:56:49 PM »
I love how suddenly its rpm's fault, and he's naturally a horrible person because some people abuse the system.

rpm

A better way to detain thieves?  Thats easy!

12GA!

If someone's going to swipe raw meat they probably aren't ready to die for it.

Send someone to jail for something silly like that and they may not want to take such a stupid risk again.  At least bank robbers attempt a decent theft.  If they attack you and your 12ga they won't be stealing too many more steaks.

Let us know when you find him and we'll have a little ski mask party.
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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2007, 11:58:02 PM »
Don't blur the picture, post it all over the internet.  Hell, post it here.  Someone will see him and it will come back in time.

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« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2007, 04:54:28 PM »
Rolex I believe I can reduce your entire post to 2 concepts.

You had little to add to the discussion but cynical quips.

You admire and just advocated Homeland Security for store security.
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« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2007, 05:16:37 PM »

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« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2007, 05:39:49 PM »
the super market i shop at puts a coded 3" piece of wire on the bottom of the meat package, the check out clerk is supposed to deactivate it when you check out, if it is not deactivated it will set off a sensor at the exits, a alarm will sound and a recording will say something about a problem with "inventory control".

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« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2007, 05:51:34 PM »
I had someone that was stealing our pallets so they and their alcoholic buddies could have drunken beer fests. The bad thing about it is that the warehouse charges $12 per skid, which is credited to the account once they are returned.


By the time we had over a dozen missing, I finally got PO'd enough and called the cops. They found the people doing it which lived 2 houses down from the store. They claimed to of only took one but I didnt believe them as far as I could throw them.


They ended up paying for all of them and was banned from the store.
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« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2007, 07:41:10 PM »
I got an idea, install a meat detector at the exit! ;)
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« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2007, 07:49:45 PM »
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Rolex I believe I can reduce your entire post to 2 concepts.

You had little to add to the discussion but cynical quips.

You admire and just advocated Homeland Security for store security.


That is certainly a bizarre personal provocation and spin. It was implied that all the Homeland Security-style alternatives together would be overreaction and not worth the cost. I can't believe that went over your head, but I guess you're not as tall as I thought.

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« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2007, 08:11:05 PM »
Oh I got it alright. I just thought I'd spin it back to you, but I guess you aren't tall enough to see it.

:rolleyes:

Now tell me, how many of homeland security ninjas do you suggest be stationed at the meat counter?
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