Putin wants to push Russia back into time...

[croduh]

Russia does not need carriers.Russia holds half of the planet anyway.

[Bruv119]

We were discussing this last night.  

What if the the Eurofighter had decided to shoot it down and said to Putin stop playing your silly games.  

I wonder what the reaction would have been.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Bruv119
We were discussing this last night.  

What if the the Eurofighter had decided to shoot it down and said to Putin stop playing your silly games.  

I wonder what the reaction would have been.

In international waters?

[Bruv119]

It wasn't in the water Nilsen its a bloody big plane you seadog.

This was a what if discussion.  The pilot had a bad morning and decided to get itchy trigger fingered.  The plane drifted into British Airspace and KABOOM!

Spies everywhere i tell you.

[Nilsen]

Over international water then jeez

Shooting it down out there would be a huge mistake given the already strained relations you have with Russia.

[Bruv119]

Yea thats why it is interesting.

What would Russia do about it?

I doubt they would declare all out war in this modern world we live in.

[Nilsen]

Hopefully not, but with Putin you never know. They would retaliate in some form that could range from grabbing a british vessel somewere and charge it for something like smuggeling or whatnot to something more serious.

Perhaps nothing would have been done other than some large loan to Russia beeing mysteriously approved a few weeks later or some other deal that ofcourse woult not be related to the incident

[FiLtH]

Id prefer mutually assured destruction, rather than random destruction with no one to hit back.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Replicant
He has to appear strong.  
 

Well, after kissing the belly of a 4year old boy in red square, maybe some PR adjustments are in order!:aok

[Sombra]

Originally posted by Boroda
Just take a look at MiG-25 and F-15 from above, You'll be surprised.

"This bloody Russians always steal our designs! Look, they already fly a plane that we wanted to make 10 years later!"

Take a look at A-5 Vigilante  (introduced 1961) and MiG-25 (introduced 1970) from above.

Ok, Ok, it was Su-27  (1984) where Vigilante was copied from.

[Shifty]

F-15 Eagle: 1960s Chronology
Originally Compiled By:
James R. Ciborski
History Office
Aeronautical Systems Center
Air Force Materiel Command
Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio

 29 April 1965 Headquarters Air Force initiated the F-X program by directing Air Force Systems Command (AFSC)"to begin efforts toward acquiring a new tactical fighter, the F-X."
 
16 Jun 1965 AFSC directed the Aeronautical Systems Division (ASD) to act on prerequisite studies for the F-X.
 
22 Jun 1965 The initial F-X briefing described "a small, low cost, high performance aircraft capable of visual air-to-ground and air-to-air missions." Air Force plans called for an initial operational capability (IOC) in the early 1970s.
 
Dec 1965 The Air Force completed and distributed its F-X study proposals to prospective bidders.
 
Jan 1966 The Air Force received proposals for the F-X from eight companies.
 
Apr 1966 The Air Force selected three companies to compete for the F-X contract: Lockheed-California Company; North American Aviation, Incorporated; and the Boeing Company.
 
12 Aug 1966 ASD officially established a systems program office (SPO) for the F-X.
 
Jun 1967 F-15 Concept Formulation Package (CFP).
 
24 Oct 1968 The Air Force officially redesignated the F-X as the ZF-15A.
 
FY-1969 The F-X Advanced Tactical Fighter SPO was reorganized and operational control passed to the Deputy for Systems Management.
 
14 Jul 1969 The F-15 program office became an independent organizational element reporting directly to the AFSC Commander. ASD continued to provide administrative, logistical, and engineering support for the program. Col Benjamin N. Bellis, brigadier general select, appointed as Deputy for the F-15.
 
19 Oct 1969 Headquarters AFSC designated the F-15 SPO as the Deputy for F-15. All divisions within the program rose to become directorates of the deputate.
 
23 Dec 1969 The Air Force selected the McDonnell Aircraft Company of the McDonnell Douglas Corporation in St. Louis, Missouri, as prime contractor for development and production of the F-15.

The F-15 is a product of the FX program started in 1965. Three years before the west was aware of the Mig-25. The F-15 is no more a copy of the Mig-25 than the TU-95 is of the B-29.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Originally posted by Shifty
F-15 Eagle: 1960s Chronology
Originally Compiled By:
James R. Ciborski
History Office
Aeronautical Systems Center
Air Force Materiel Command
Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio

The F-15 is a product of the FX program started in 1965. Three years before the west was officially  aware of the Mig-25. The F-15 is no more a copy of the Mig-25 than the TU-95 is of the B-29.

There, fixed.

[Shifty]

Thank you.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Boroda
Just take a look at MiG-25 and F-15 from above, You'll be surprised.

At least you might know if the Mig's ejection seat will work.