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Offline dedalos

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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2007, 01:15:41 PM »
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I know what is "being alluded to" and it is incorrect.   Ack hitting you has NO BEARING, regardless of speed, angle, etc.

The creator of this very game disagrees with you two as well.


Did you try it or just agreeing with HT because he is the creator?
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2007, 01:54:55 PM »
dontcha feel that by calling hitech 'The Creator' that you are bordering on creating a cult?
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2007, 02:10:13 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2007, 02:15:21 PM »
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Did you try it or just agreeing with HT because he is the creator?
Why yer attitude?   I've tried it many times as I've been playing since April of 2002.    But wait, "I'm not good enough".   :rofl
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2007, 02:29:02 PM »
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Why yer attitude?   I've tried it many times as I've been playing since April of 2002.    But wait, "I'm not good enough".   :rofl


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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2007, 02:32:12 PM »
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HT is the creator


all hail the creator!:o
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2007, 02:36:43 PM »
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Why?
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2007, 02:39:58 PM »
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Why?


Because not agreeing with you is not attitude and something Mittens might have told you in the past has nothing to do with me or this argument. This is easily solved any way.
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2007, 02:44:19 PM »
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Yet another entire post without a spelling error.
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So did 4,690 other people :D

Not true.  You would have to deduct the number of posts where he was the thread starter :)
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2007, 02:46:57 PM »
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He is talking about auto ack.  Try it, then respond.


Reads like there is a ton of "attitude" in that post.

As for the ack, I've done both, scream through on the deck, or flop around above the field. Some times you get through clean other times you don't. When its your turn, ack gets ya!

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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2007, 02:47:05 PM »
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Why yer attitude?   I've tried it many times as I've been playing since April of 2002.    But wait, "I'm not good enough".   :rofl
Well, I have to agree with Tiger.  

I have found when I egress from a base staying super low I have a better chance than when I pull up right away.  

I don't think it's really the ack is less accurate, I think it's because when low on the deck, there are less guns that can see you, so there is less chance of a hit.

Tiger, if it works for you, then do it, regardless of what others may say.
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2007, 03:43:05 PM »
No idea how auto AA "aims", but obviously if you are scraping your prop you are obscured by buildings from some guns & some angles.  It makes sense that you're are harder to hit and the buildings may also absorb some of the hits (unless it's smart enough to not shoot it's own structures).

Speed seems to help me get through more than any other factor.  Since most of the rounds just barely miss, it seems like "jinking" has about the same odds of putting me in harms way (turning into one of the zillion near misses wizzing by) as it does out of harms way.

Riding on kills in a perk ride through ack flips the auto acks "laser-guided" mode switch to "on" so don't even bother :D

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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2007, 03:55:14 PM »
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No idea how auto AA "aims", ....:D


HT has explained how acks work in the past, and I think he discussed it at the last convention...which I got to hear thanks to an attendee's podcast. So here's the scoop.


Ack does NOT aim. HT said that he started with "aiming" programming, and worked on variations of it for years. (Newer players may not realize that HT has been programming online air sims for more than a decade.) The algorhytms for aiming either resulted in unreasonable laser guided accuracy, or gunners so stupid that they could be ignored.


Instead, we have an "area probability" system. Your likelihood of getting hit by an individual shot is considered statistically, not tracked like an aimed shot. There are three factors that priamrily affect your chance of getting hit:

RANGE from the firing gun;
SPEED that you are travelling; and
G-FORCES you are experiencing.

You are more likely to get hit when you are close, slow, and straight.  You are less likely to get hit when you are fast, farther away, and pulling Gs. And that about sums it up.


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And about the "myth" and the arguments that followed...your experience is real, but it isnt for the reason you think. You're not "hiding from the ack by being low, because the shot isnt aimed. Instead, a diving firing pass followed by a high speed exit means, well, that you're fast and extending the range. You can maximize your chances by additionatlly pulling some G's right when the next shot is due.
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2007, 03:56:14 PM »
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Reads like there is a ton of "attitude" in that post.
 


:rofl You are kidding right?  How about these?
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I have no problems racking up killz in the Ostie or FG. But it is a myth.

The creator of this very game disagrees with you two as well.


How do you explain his first response to someone asking a simple question?

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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2007, 03:58:24 PM »
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Reads like there is a ton of "attitude" in that post.

 When its your turn, ack gets ya!
I guess my question is when is it my turn that the ack wont get me?