AAA truth or myth

[Simaril]

Originally posted by Murdr
Yet another entire post without a spelling error.
 
 

I'm not sure, Murdr...I think he was trying to say the guess was a "Miss"

[xbrit]

Originally posted by Saxman
V'Ger? Where?!

ahh what an epic that one was !!

[WMLute]

actually, I might throw something out there...

(I regularly de-ack fields and rarely get killed/damaged.  MAYBE once out of 8 do I take any serious damage)

Have you ever taken a field with nme gv's or supplies on the field, and when the auto ack starts firing it is shooting "short" and seems to take forever to hit/kill/destroy 'em?

Or have you driven up to a field in a GV and the auto ack starts shooting at you and the rounds are landing short?

I would be curious if you flew as close to the ground (as was suggested earlier) if that doesn't make some of the ack "miss" by landing short.  

Might bear some lookin' into.

[FBplmmr]

Originally posted by Yknurd
dontcha feel that by calling hitech 'The Creator' that you are bordering on creating a cult?

Thats just silly!

If it were a cult we would give the creator our money, loose touch with friends and family not in the cult, preach to those not in the cult in an effort to get them to join, hang out in airports....oh crap!:noid

[Masherbrum]

I don't have an "attitude", never have, never will.   But trying to argue the point with HT himself, and disregarding it is foolish.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
I don't have an "attitude", never have, never will.   But trying to argue the point with HT himself, and disregarding it is foolish.

I was not arguing with HT.  I really don't care about anything he a has to say and I am sure he does not care about what I have to say.  I was talking to you.  I very nicely asked you to try it.  Thats all, sorry if you saw it as attitude.  I tried it last night.  I was going to film it but the game crashes when you do that.  In any case, I flew up and down the runway 4 times before I got a PW.  I got pinged 1 time on every pass with no other damage.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by dedalos
I was not arguing with HT.  I really don't care about anything he a has to say and I am sure he does not care about what I have to say.  I was talking to you.  I very nicely asked you to try it.  Thats all, sorry if you saw it as attitude.  I tried it last night.  I was going to film it but the game crashes when you do that.  In any case, I flew up and down the runway 4 times before I got a PW.  I got pinged 1 time on every pass with no other damage.

I've tried it many times, but really never saw any "consistency".    I've tried numerous speeds, angles, etc.   It seems that around 50% of the time, I'm ending up in the tower.  

<> Ded, that is why I hate the internet, you lose "interpretation".

[Lusche]

Originally posted by FBplmmr
Thats just silly!

If it were a cult we would give the creator our money, loose touch with friends and family not in the cult, preach to those not in the cult in an effort to get them to join, hang out in airports....oh crap!:noid

 

[Shuffler]

Originally posted by Murdr
Yet another entire post without a spelling error.
 

[Flayed1]

Originally posted by Simaril
HT has explained how acks work in the past, and I think he discussed it at the last convention...which I got to hear thanks to an attendee's podcast. So here's the scoop.


Ack does NOT aim. HT said that he started with "aiming" programming, and worked on variations of it for years. (Newer players may not realize that HT has been programming online air sims for more than a decade.) The algorhytms for aiming either resulted in unreasonable laser guided accuracy, or gunners so stupid that they could be ignored.


Instead, we have an "area probability" system. Your likelihood of getting hit by an individual shot is considered statistically, not tracked like an aimed shot. There are three factors that priamrily affect your chance of getting hit:

RANGE from the firing gun;
SPEED that you are travelling; and
G-FORCES you are experiencing.

You are more likely to get hit when you are close, slow, and straight.  You are less likely to get hit when you are fast, farther away, and pulling Gs. And that about sums it up.

  Sooo we are getting shot by luck.. Or the lack of luck... LOL Guess it depends what side of the ACK your on

[shamroc]

Originally posted by Yknurd
dontcha feel that by calling hitech 'The Creator' that you are bordering on creating a cult?

Well, ultimately, I kinda look at it like we're all hamsters in 'The Creator's Habitrail.

That's pretty much what it boils down to.

Shamroc

[5PointOh]

Originally posted by lyric1
I guess my question is when is it my turn that the ack wont get me?

Take a number after me please.  I'm number 309,292.

 

[Ghosth]

Speed, and small (very small) random changes in elevation and direction works the best long term. If your getting hit  try to extend out a bit farther, zoom higher on your reverse, dive in, take your 2 or 3 acks per pass, and wiggle slightly on exit.

I always move enough lining up shots on entry I don't worry about wiggling then.

[Simaril]

Originally posted by dedalos
I was not arguing with HT.  I really don't care about anything he a has to say and I am sure he does not care about what I have to say.  I was talking to you.  I very nicely asked you to try it.  Thats all, sorry if you saw it as attitude.  I tried it last night.  I was going to film it but the game crashes when you do that.  In any case, I flew up and down the runway 4 times before I got a PW.  I got pinged 1 time on every pass with no other damage.

Originally posted by Simaril
And about the "myth" and the arguments that followed...your experience is real, but it isnt for the reason you think. You're not "hiding from the ack by being low, because the shot isnt aimed. Instead, a diving firing pass followed by a high speed exit means, well, that you're fast and extending the range. You can maximize your chances by additionatlly pulling some G's right when the next shot is due.

Dedalos --

"Trying it" doesnt proove anything, because there are so many possible explanations for what we observe. That's why "I don't care about anything HT has to say" is  ummm....intelligence challenged.

HE'S the guy who wrote the Bleeping Code, for crying out loud...how could you NOT care about how he says the ack works? understanding the "why" can be all the difference between success and failure!

[Traveler]

Originally posted by Tiger
It seems this way to me...

If you come in low, fast and straight at an airfield and extend straight out with only minor climb, the Auto-Ack hits me less than if I attempt any evasive manuevers while over the field.

This seems odd to me.  Seems like if I were flying straight I'd be easier to hit than if I were to make minor evasive manuevers.

Ingress and egress routes and  altitude would help limit the number of rounds that could be put on target,  It’s line of sight, so if they can’t see you, they can’t hit you.  If there are enough objects such hangers, tower, hills, trees, or valleys to use for cover the ack can’t hit you.  because you are exposed for a shoter period of time.

I think that's what Tiger is alluding to and in that respect it would be fact not myth.