Author Topic: Plane Factories (Read 2383 times)

Flayed1 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 28, 2007, 08:14:01 AM »

The problem I see with CT is that is sounds like a WW2 role playing game with preplanned missions like a WW2 version of Diablo or some such game.... What makes the areanas we have now fun is the freedom of it, the players figure out how to win the war and you do what you want.. It dosn't sound like CT will be much like this, it seems to me that it will really fill the needs of the guys that like special event type flying and this could be fun but I really prefer games that let you the player decide what, where, when and how you get something done...

This being said I'll probably hang out in the current arenas more and there are probably others like me that will feel similar if CT turns out to be the way I'm thinking it will.. So the current arenas will need some form of fixing done to the strat to make it worth the time to bomb it. Unless this is HTC's grand plan to try making the arenas unpalatable for the bomber guys and hope they will flock to CT hopeing that it has what the arenas are missing...

Murdr · « **Reply #46 on:** August 28, 2007, 01:49:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
I know HT loathed the aircraft factories in AW. he has said so many times.

Yea, Ive seen that but never saw an explanation why. It can't be limiting plane choice

If there was an La factory, I might actually jump in a bomber more

Bronk · « **Reply #47 on:** August 28, 2007, 03:35:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Murdr
Yea, Ive seen that but never saw an explanation why. It can't be limiting plane choice

If there was an La factory, I might actually jump in a bomber more

He was a spit dweeb.

Bronk

1Boner · « **Reply #48 on:** August 28, 2007, 03:40:23 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
Strat has been broken for so long, any change or attempts to do so would be great.

Please, let the La7 factory be made of balsa wood

I see alot more 109s than la7s

Lets have a 109 factory right next to a fuel depot please.

KayBayRay · « **Reply #49 on:** August 28, 2007, 04:26:35 PM »

I agree with the idea of upgrading the strat system in this game. Yeah there would be some things to work out but I think it would enhance the game tremendously.

I for one was a long time flyer in AW. One particular aspect I really enjoyed about AW was the strat effects. There were more than just the Aircraft Factory. Recall "Bad Gas" when you would destroy fuel? I think that the strat aspect in the MA's is really lacking.

Yeah I like jumping in a furball just like anybody else. But hey, everything in moderation. I don't play this game for only one of the potential aspects, I like some variety. Since I have been unable to participate in most of the special events due to my life schedule I would like to see the strat system overhauled. As for CT, I would prefer to fly various missions with and against a force of Human piloted aircraft. It is much more challenging and fun.

Yeah and if it is overhauled each of us will be effected in some way. Some of it good and some of it bad by each of our perspectives on this game. Lets face it, we all look for different things in this game and nothing will satisfy everybody. But looking back at AW it did make for some very cool sessions from time to time.

Later,
KayBay

Motherland · « **Reply #50 on:** August 28, 2007, 04:47:43 PM »

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Originally posted by 1Boner
I see alot more 109s than la7s

Lets have a 109 factory right next to a fuel depot please.

But, whats wrong with 109's?
La7's outperform just about every plane in everything. Speed, rate of climb, turning, and armament. And its three 20mm's are easy to aim. Same goes for Spit 8's and 16's.
The 109, on the other hand, while is very fast (assuming your talking about the K), has a good rate of climb, it doesnt turn great, and the 30mm is a tough gun to aim. It also compresses at like 450, so you cant go into a vertical dive in it. (vertical is up and down, not just up). The G's, are slower, turn better, and have a second rate armament, if your talking about the G2 especially. They are not 'point and shoot' planes like Spitfires or LA's.

Factories would be nice though. Maybe, instead of locking these planes, they put a perk price on them.
Over 25% damaged, the perk price is 1/10 the damage. At 100% damage only does it lock out the plane. So, if an LA factory is 30% damaged, theres a 3 point perk price on the LA 5/7. 60%, 6 perks. This wouldnt be too unfair, Id think.

Rich46yo · « **Reply #51 on:** August 28, 2007, 05:19:04 PM »

I'm a bomber stick and anything that improves the bomber situation Im all for because I think it would improve the game. Why you ask? Im a traditionalist in AH and believe in flying the bombers the way they actually were in the war which means no furball suicides at 4,000' over major airfields with 24s and 1,000 lb bombs. I just dont see the fun in that and prefer slinking around radars at 15,000' to 20,000' attacking strats the way they were during the war.

The realities were the Germans committed vast resources against the Brit & Yank strategic air-forces, and the Japanese would have if they had had them to burn. Ive always believed any perceived failure in the Allied air war to win the war came more from a failure to focus on one chain of the German war machine, like fuel, for long enough, then the fact that strategic air couldnt win the war by fatally crippling Germany. Fatso himself said he knew the war was over the day he saw Mustangs escorting heavies deep into Germany.

To bad for the Germans and Japanese we didnt all pile into Lancaster's and head for German air bases 50 miles away to drop on hangars from 3,000'.

1Boner · « **Reply #52 on:** August 28, 2007, 06:31:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Motherland
But, whats wrong with 109's?
La7's outperform just about every plane in everything. Speed, rate of climb, turning, and armament. And its three 20mm's are easy to aim. Same goes for Spit 8's and 16's.
The 109, on the other hand, while is very fast (assuming your talking about the K), has a good rate of climb, it doesnt turn great, and the 30mm is a tough gun to aim. It also compresses at like 450, so you cant go into a vertical dive in it. (vertical is up and down, not just up). The G's, are slower, turn better, and have a second rate armament, if your talking about the G2 especially. They are not 'point and shoot' planes like Spitfires or LA's.

Factories would be nice though. Maybe, instead of locking these planes, they put a perk price on them.
Over 25% damaged, the perk price is 1/10 the damage. At 100% damage only does it lock out the plane. So, if an LA factory is 30% damaged, theres a 3 point perk price on the LA 5/7. 60%, 6 perks. This wouldnt be too unfair, Id think.

Nothing wrong with the 109--nothing wrong with the La7 either.

I was just bustin the chops of all the guys who complain about the La7.

I must be flying a different game than them because I don,t see it as much as some of the other so called "uber" machines.

I do however see alot of 51s and 109s. Oh well, I can live with that.

If they ever went to the plane factories though, what I would like to see is this:

Different Eny value factories. IE hit the 5 or 10 eny factories and those planes won,t be available for 30 minutes.

And make them random and unmarked every time a map changes.

So you may hit a plane factory, but it will only knock out the 15 Eny planes.

Try again. Kinda like russian roulette.

I Don,t mind the way things are now, but plane factories sound like they could be fun too.

Pt boats in rivers would be fun too.

Havin fun,

Boner

Jackraid · « **Reply #53 on:** August 28, 2007, 06:58:41 PM »

I do like the idea of plane factories, or plane type factories. Fighter, Attack, bomber, GV. It doesnt have to eliminate a whole plane group but disable the latest model. Another thought along with adding factories would be to add more towns to a specific airfield. Small airfield=1 town, Large airfield=2 towns to take down...even then it wouldnt have to be every airfield. The closer to the Hq. airfields could have more than one town. With the current maps this might only affect up to 3 or 4 bases per side.

thndregg · « **Reply #54 on:** August 29, 2007, 07:51:44 AM »

Top-end uberplane factories would provoke on helluva fight.

Laurie · « **Reply #55 on:** August 29, 2007, 01:58:24 PM »

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Originally posted by 68ROX
It was an awesome aspect of Air Warrior that you could knock out their Spitfire factory and keep them from flying Spits for almost an hour.

You are right...most folks do not defend their strats as the damage does not seem to hurt them directly....

But have an LA7 factory....
A Spitfire factory....
A P-51D factory....
A Typhoon factory....

To be able to knock THOSE out and deprive them of those rides for an hour......???

Whatch the FUR FLY!!!!

"I CAN'T Fly my UBER-RIDE??? WHHHHHHAAAAAAAA!!:cry

68ROX

I'd hardly call the typhie a "uber-ride" when you put it up with things like LALA spit 16 and pony.