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Offline WMLute

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« Reply #75 on: September 01, 2007, 05:05:30 AM »
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any dickweed post 500 times becomes a senior mamber lol yes mammery
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This has to be at LEAST the 5th post i've seen in the past few days from you that made me go "huh"?  You DO understand how you come across right?



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« Reply #76 on: September 01, 2007, 05:37:30 AM »
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Ok, I for one need some "closure" here.

Did ANYTHING that was posted help you what so ever?  Did none of the posts that explained how it all works do anything for ya'?

I for one would like to know just what you didn't understand, and if it was clarified.


                            Yes, thru all of this air I learned one thing, "I already knew this forum can become the literary equivalent of furball". I learned that the little dar bars can be triggered by one airplane flying over 200'. Before this I honestly didn't know. I didnt know one airplane could do that.

                         Which makes the game even more one dimensional really. Most of all for bombers. You can track the bars across empty space, see the targets ahead of them, "especially when they light up", figure out there head to and from, eat lunch, cut the grass, quiet mommie by cleaning your room, and jump on them while they are O/B. Everyone knows no bomber stick is going to fly into radar or fly low enough to give away all that energy.

                     And I dont even really think bomber sticks are that discriminated against, or, really get the short end of the stick. 90% of the time Ive been defeated Ive just plain been outflown and outfought. It happened again today. But Ive been very effective the last few days after changing my tactics. Unfortunately, like everyone else, I'm only using about 10% of the map now. Im not about to waste 2 hours flying endarounds with little bars and lights going off.

                 So this is what I was getting at before all the smart aleck squeekies chimed in. Can the game be better? Here's what I would do.

1, I'd make the friendly green dot locator's so you can turn them on or off.

2, I'd turn off the dar bars in sectors with no targets in them. As it is they are just another form of radar. And while were at it why not give the heavies some chaff to throw out in radar.

3, I'd make more strat targets, place more importance on them, give bomber sticks more points for shooting down fighters in strat sectors, and more points for bombing them. Conversely the same for fighter sticks. Make it worthwhile for them to fly long patrols around strat targets. Also, if they get shot down near them, limit the bases they can fly out of again for say 1/2 hour.

4, Give penalty points for bailing out of aircraft that aren't heavily damaged. As it is, if your over friendly territory, and you run out of gas or bullets, you can bail and just jump in next air station down the line.

5, Open a forum room where you have to show your over 21 yo to get in. I'm sorta joking here but this entire thread could have been discussed in an adult manner. You dont see me jumping in threads with stupid one-liners, or opinions, that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Nor do I have delusions of paranoia and think I'm being talked about when my name isn't mentioned.

                           Im only posting this cause you asked. I'm done with the thread.
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« Reply #77 on: September 01, 2007, 11:43:56 AM »
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1, I'd make the friendly green dot locator's so you can turn them on or off.
Silly idea, really.  If you mean, turn off your own dot so others can't see you, this makes spying easier since you won't necessarily see the low "friendly" following your mission and reporting your position.

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2, I'd turn off the dar bars in sectors with no targets in them. As it is they are just another form of radar. And while were at it why not give the heavies some chaff to throw out in radar.
Fine, turn off the dar bars, but increase the circle dar to a more accurate range of several sectors.  :p
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3, I'd make more strat targets, place more importance on them, give bomber sticks more points for shooting down fighters in strat sectors, and more points for bombing them. Conversely the same for fighter sticks. Make it worthwhile for them to fly long patrols around strat targets. Also, if they get shot down near them, limit the bases they can fly out of again for say 1/2 hour.
This is more like 3a - 3c, but . . . The purpose of bombers is to blow stuff up, not shoot things down.  Historically, bombers would have LOVED to avoid fighters on every run.  I am not sure how it helps anything to encourage people to bring B-24s into furballs.  If they want to for fun, that's fine, but it shouldn't be encouraged through "rewarding" the behavior with rank/points/whatever.

More important strat?  This I can agree with, but specifically what would you like to see?  How do you make them more important?

And how exactly do you propose "rewarding" long range fighter escort?  More importantly, who would want to fly for hours in empty sky?  What is the fun in that?

Limit bases who can fly out of?  And why?  I don't get it.
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4, Give penalty points for bailing out of aircraft that aren't heavily damaged. As it is, if your over friendly territory, and you run out of gas or bullets, you can bail and just jump in next air station down the line.
And there is a problem with that?  If I am anywhere doing anything and my squad calls guns up at a base across the map, I am bailing.  Period.  You want me to be penalized for supporting my squad?

This is a perfect example of trying to "legislate away" annoying but sometimes justifiable behavior, just because you have a problem with it.  My advice:  Worry about how you play your game.  Let them worry about how they play their game.
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5, Open a forum room where you have to show your over 21 yo to get in. I'm sorta joking here but this entire thread could have been discussed in an adult manner. You dont see me jumping in threads with stupid one-liners, or opinions, that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Nor do I have delusions of paranoia and think I'm being talked about when my name isn't mentioned.
This one just makes me laugh.  :lol  The behavior you describe is typical for any thread on these or any other open forum.  Surely you knew this before you posted.  The fact that you react to it just encourages the behavior to continue.
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« Reply #78 on: September 01, 2007, 12:27:22 PM »
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Yes, thru all of this air I learned one thing, "I already knew this forum can become the literary equivalent of furball".
I was hoping you'd learned to ask questions about game mechanics in Help & Training if you want a lot less noise and sillyness in the replies :)

...That the use of the "C" word is frowned upon by HTC in these forums.  It is often invoked without any validity, and due to a lack of understanding. (also as mentioned it's like wearing a sign on your forehead saying "Hi! Im new here")
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« Reply #79 on: September 01, 2007, 01:07:28 PM »
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2, I'd turn off the dar bars in sectors with no targets in them. As it is they are just another form of radar. And while were at it why not give the heavies some chaff to throw out in radar.

I highly doubt that you would actually want to use chaff When your bombing alone. What chaff does to radar is to give it a massive amount of return causing the operator to see a massive formation of aircraft coming in. I can see exactly what would happen, the other tram sees a huge dar bar in no man's land, the all up 262's, 109k4's,163's and other interceptors. Then they fin you lone bomber  an all gang you at once. that would not end well for the bombers.

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« Reply #80 on: September 01, 2007, 05:13:08 PM »
If you are circling above a V-field and try to warn your teammates in GVs about inbound enemy forces:

Lusche : Thanks for the heads up on this . I always believed it was like the range vox ( 25 miles for purple text ) :(

Ok so it's a "room" and the only people in it are from the same base .

Glad I at least knew that the dar was 500 :)
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« Reply #81 on: September 01, 2007, 05:31:57 PM »
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Obviously I thought I was the only adult here Xbrit. I mean I must have mentioned your name at least 90 times here as being a kid. Sheesh!

                        The thread will probably end when people, and children, with nothing to offer will cease with the stupid one liners.

                       Ive figured this game out already. Its not Doctorate level calculus. Seeya in the furball kiddies, I'm a comin in my Death Star 17's.:p

Well why ask questions and then when you don't like the answer start whining ?? People offered up reasonable answers and you fly off at a tangent.

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« Reply #82 on: September 01, 2007, 06:04:16 PM »
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Lusche : Thanks for the heads up on this . I always believed it was like the range vox ( 25 miles for purple text ) :(



Like I said before: The vast majority of players believes this. And for a good reason: It would be reasonable (at least to me) if it was that way. I really wish HTC would change "Room" to a "Range" text channel.
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« Reply #83 on: September 01, 2007, 06:20:18 PM »
Rich46YO,
I do believe you can find an answer to just about every single question you have at the following website:

Aces High II Trainer Corps ( http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/ )

pertaining to the Game Aces High II, that is!

if you ever do have a question and can not find the answer, just post it in the Help and Training  Forum on this messageboard.

btw, what is your ingame gameid?  the same as your username here on the boards?



HTC should make it a rule that if you open an account on these boards you must provide your ingame gameid at the bottom of every post you make. It should match your IP to validate...if it does not match IP to both username/gameid then you are refused  the priviledge to post........how hard could this be to initiate into the registration of the messageboards?
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« Reply #84 on: September 01, 2007, 06:27:22 PM »
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It should match your IP to validate...if it does not match IP to both username/gameid then you are refused  the priviledge to post........how hard could this be to initiate into the registration of the messageboards?


I have dynamic IPs, and also I do often post from different computers with vastly different IP's (different providers)...
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« Reply #85 on: September 01, 2007, 06:42:16 PM »
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I have dynamic IPs, and also I do often post from different computers with vastly different IP's (different providers)...


eh, good point Lusche, ....still think people who post should have to provide their ingame game id at the bottom of their postings.....in any case....
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« Reply #86 on: September 01, 2007, 06:50:39 PM »
If you are toodling off and bombing crap like cities with no friendlies about, you stick out like a sore thumb, and even if ya are at 20k, a guy desperate for an easy bomber kill can up a K4 or G14 and be co-alt with you very quickly---hitting hangars, towns, etc at or near bases your country is attacking makes you blend in far more easily
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« Reply #87 on: September 01, 2007, 11:09:04 PM »
Rich, if this game was "just" about flying bombers those suggestions actually might make some sense. However, the game is MUCH MUCH bigger than that.

As such the settings have to be "balanced" for everyone. Furballers don't get exactly what they want, jabo boys don't get exactly what they want, NOE'rs don't get exactly what they want and buff pilots don't get exactly what they want.

Like everything else in life its a balance.
Since I think you'll find there are 3 or 4 (if not more) fighter sorties for every bomber sortie, some things get "tipped" in their favor. Some things evolved that way so people could ALWAYS find a fight. Like the sector bars.

Why is it someone new comes in, ask's a couple questions, but isn't satisified with the answers. It is the way it is, deal with it or move on.

You have questions, I'll be glad to help.

You want to change the game, well my advice is go build your own.

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« Reply #88 on: September 02, 2007, 05:50:32 AM »
The laws of "probability". seems to apply here.
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« Reply #89 on: September 02, 2007, 03:29:11 PM »
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Which makes the game even more one dimensional really. Most of all for bombers. You can track the bars across empty space, see the targets ahead of them




Bar Dar is used to show the ratio of friendly aircraft to enemy aircraft in a specific area
so if theyre even, there's a fairly even amount of freindly and enemy aircraft. It isn't made to give away an exact position of anything...
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