Originally posted by SunBat
Well, I've flown in both, and I hate to say it but you guys just ain't as great as you think you are. Or maybe the 50 best H2Hers aren't as bad as you think they are. The challenge was the 50 best against the 50 best. I'll agree that 50 average H2Hers would be slaughtered by 50 average MAers, but I would say it wouldn't be a slaughter best against best. The MAers would win though.
I used to host in H2H alot (most of my rooms had no external views and realistic ammo) and it was always fun to see some over-confident MAer whine when one of the freeloaders was stompin' him. LOL. It didn't happen often, but when it did it was priceless.
Having said all of that, if there was some way to determine the truly best players (which there isn't) I would most definetly say they would be from the MA crowd. The best of the best in the MA are truly outstanding players who have made ACM their hobby and passion. Those guys I salute.
Personally, I don't think a 50 on 50 could happen. I really don't think you will find 50 "good" H2H pilots and gather them all together.
20 on 20 or 10 on 10 might be the best we could do.
As far as talent, i've been in H2H (often incognito) and i've seen/fought the best the MA has to offer. There really isn't a comparison. There really are some "good" sticks in H2H, but i've witnessed utter brilliance by many MA pilots.
I will go so far as to say a couple of H2H pilots are worthy of makin' it on the MA top 50 list.
It really is a question of the talent pool. The MA people get thousands of people to fight and hone their skills against. Some of us who have been flying for years and years have faced tens of thousands of diff. opponents. The H2H people are quite limited in that respect. There are only so many people they can fight, and only so much they can learn.
Factor in the fact that most H2H pilots have never (or almost never) SEEN 100 planes in the air at one time, vs. that's not that uncommon in the MA, the MA people have the clear advantage.
I think it would be fun. But I also think it would be over very, very quickly.
Originally posted by PanosGR
It seems to me like a civil war. AH pilots vs H2H pilots. We all play the same game. What about the IL2 pilots? They say, at least in an informal way, sort of speak, that they own us all. So maybe we could try this. The best 10 of them in our game and vice versa. That could be a challenge.
I don't wanna dig up the thread, but this was done with WarBirds a few years back. They came here and fought, and vs. versa.
IIRC the AcesHigh people won, but it was a great battle.