New H2H proposal.

[ROC]

I think many of you don't see the point of the 8 player option, the whole point was that 2 weeks wasnt enough to learn all there was and so they wanted a free arena to play

Actually, the flight model in H2H and the MA is exactly the same by default, so it really doesn't matter whether you fly in the MA or H2H, it's going to take the same amount of time to get better.

Now, if people chose to use the uber easy settings they could get away with in H2H, then your argument is pointless because they weren't learning a thing.

The Point is, they wanted a free arena to play in.    Again, as I've said before, it's not HTs problem it closed, blame the morons who thought they were cute and clever.

Many of us see quite fine, thank you very much

[technical]

Originally posted by ROC
Actually, the flight model in H2H and the MA is exactly the same by default, so it really doesn't matter whether you fly in the MA or H2H, it's going to take the same amount of time to get better.
 

Exactly, but people don't want to pay to get better at a game, so after their 2 weeks is up, they'd be forced to pay to keep learning, or learn for free, and then go on the big rooms. For me anyways, if it wasn't for 8 player i wouldn't be here typing right now, because i'm not going to pay 15 a month to learn a game.

[Furball]

best way to learn this game is to jump right in at the deep end in the MA and then ask questions after getting killed.

H2H is a waste of time, too many little napoleons in there.

Raptor is good, i remember having some great fights with him when i would occasionally host a H2H room - i believe he is flying in the MA now.

[Xargos]

You get what you pay for.  I love how some people think it's their right to have a free ride.

[Bunyip]

h2h does bring in some paying  customers for hitech......

Its a pity a few morons  ruined  it. Maybe  charge 5 per month to host h2h rooms  and  you may have more control over the situation just my  two cents

[Morpheus]

lol

mmm gimme gimme i want i want free free free

[sgt203]

quote:
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Originally posted by sgt203
Did you already eat those cookies, partially digest them and pass them out because they do not look very tasty at all.

Curious...

Originally posted by kamilyun
My friend...you miss the finer points of cookie quality.  1st off, the borders on those cookies is not perfectly round, suggesting that they are of homemade origin and not out of the box, mass produced variety.  2nd, the golden brown edges, indicate a crisp/crunchy first bite, while the slightly dull middle section leads me to believe there is a moist, chewy center.  Finally, and most important of all, the shiny luster which each cookie displays is a clear indication that these specimens are absolutely loaded with butter--the true mark of a perfect cookie.

Another lame attempt on my part at pointless humor has failed......

And as to the response on the other hand with the exception of the choice of the words "specimens", considering the obvious reference I was making, this was well thought out and eloquent explanation of the finer points of cookieology.

[A8TOOL]

For me anyways, if it wasn't for 8 player i wouldn't be here typing right now, because i'm not going to pay 15 a month to learn a game.

You and your buddy both registered in January of 07   If you havn't learned anything since then you just won't or your lying.  The truth is, your spoiled. Now go to bed before your parents find out your still up.

[Ghastly]

I'd say it's up to HTC as to what happens with the Free Multiplayer option.  They are the only ones that can make the determination as to whether the expense of maintaining it (time, attention, and effort as well as monetarily) is justifiable from a business perspective.

Those of you who are criticizing the FM community (ie derogatory names like "Freeloaders") need to realize that HTC chose to develop and enable free multiplayer as a feature - presumably as a marketing effort.  Only the most insane of us would feel as though they have the right to b&m about HTC "wasting" time organizing and managing an advertising campaign in a magazine, on simming or game play forums, or on the Maybe It's History (and maybe it's not!) Channel, so I can't understand why any of us think we have a right to an opinion over another advertising tool like FM.

[The Fugitive]

Originally posted by technical
Exactly, but people don't want to pay to get better at a game, so after their 2 weeks is up, they'd be forced to pay to keep learning, or learn for free, and then go on the big rooms. For me anyways, if it wasn't for 8 player i wouldn't be here typing right now, because i'm not going to pay 15 a month to learn a game.

LOL!!!! I've been flying here for years, and I'm STILL leaning !! The question you have to ask yourself is "am I having fun playing this game?" Whether your "learning" or just playing, thats the only question thats important. If your not having fun, don't pay and move on, if ya are, send HTC a check and join in !

Pretty simple huh?

[Donzo]

All this whining about "I'm not going to pay to learn the game"...couldn't you learn the game by reading the help file and playing offline?

[Coshy]

Originally posted by technical
Exactly, but people don't want to pay to get better at a game, so after their 2 weeks is up, they'd be forced to pay to keep learning, or learn for free, and then go on the big rooms. For me anyways, if it wasn't for 8 player i wouldn't be here typing right now, because i'm not going to pay 15 a month to learn a game.

Bull!

Name one pay to play game that gives you anything longer than a 2 week trial. Name one pay to play game that you dont have to learn while you are playing (and paying).

[Ghosth]

Back in 96 I got married, got my first isp, and started by playing A10 Cuba over Kali. It wasn't long before a character named VonDoom asked me if I liked WWII planes. Well duh!, so he points me to warbirds.

Well the 30$  minimum monthly fee PLUS 2$ an hour was pretty steep for me.
Where is this going you ask, yep, to H2H, cause even way way back in 96 in warbirds there was H2H.

I flew in H2H a lot, I was on Deft's warbirds ladder, chewed my way into the top 20 eventually. And at one point I managed for a brief time to make #1 before someone knocked me back off.  

At that point the Warbirds people did a 4 month beta of "Fighter Ops".
Hey, ONLINE for free, granted limited planes available, but they had my A6m, so I didn't care.

You know once I'd been online h2h never was the same.  Ohhh 1 on 1 duels with rules for the ladder, those were still good. But just to fly in a h2h furball, LOL. Sorry, but any arena with 30 or more blows that away.

In 99 I started flying the AH1 beta, and except for the very first tour (was in the process of talking my squad over here from WB) I've been here ever since.

You want to learn, you start your 2 week acct and spend it in the TA and reading. There are very few certainties in life, you don't get many here either.
But 1 month along with your free trial would get you 6 weeks. Certainly enough to find out if you enjoy it or not. If you enjoy it, then you carry on and keep climbing.  If not, well you found that out and it only cost you 15$.
You spend 2 to 3 times that for most boxed games. And once you've played through the single player mode a time or 2 they go into the closet and are forgotten.

You want excitement, feel free to dive into the MA or perhaps even better get hooked up with a Squadron Ops event.  Where you have 1 life, so you better fly smart.

H2H just doesn't even come close to measureing up.
And its a HUGE security hole, as you all managed to prove so very nicely.
Yes H2H is dead, finite, kicked the can, so either pony up or move on. This is the way it is for the foreseeable future.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by technical
I think many of you don't see the point of the 8 player option, the whole point was that 2 weeks wasnt enough to learn all there was and so they wanted a free arena to play.  I'm willing to bet that almost all of you here that are p2p started in the 8 player, correct me if i'm wrong (unless you have previous experience in a flight game)

Yep, you are wrong!

[LYNX]

very wrong.