Author Topic: New H2H proposal. (Read 3575 times)

reeb · « **Reply #75 on:** September 07, 2007, 11:30:59 PM »

5-6 kills in H2H = 1 maybe 2 in the MA
Ive been in the H2H and laughed so hard cuz i would up a p51b or a p40 stay on the deck and kill spits, zekes, hurris and land 20-30 kills......and im barely an avarage MA pilot.

Spikes · « **Reply #76 on:** September 07, 2007, 11:34:40 PM »

Yes...all they do is spray, HO, vulch...then complain when you vulch.

technical · « **Reply #77 on:** September 08, 2007, 01:20:10 AM »

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Originally posted by LYNX
ummm I predict your maximum landed kills with MA setting (1/2 your ammo load) will be 3.....if at all

When you see my name flashing 10 at the bottom, will you still be smiling;)

kj714 · « **Reply #78 on:** September 08, 2007, 01:47:08 AM »

"You are getting a game with 1997 era graphics. For one year's subscription you could buy 2 quality titles (like the latest iteration of il2 or the upcoming BoB). I'm not saying this game isn't of significant quality, but these guys are making money hand over fist and still haven't gotten around to updating the graphics. This is my biggest grievance of all."

I love it when people just let their a"" hang out and flap in the wind.

Here's his basic argument:

I want to pay $60 and play forever after.

Here's how I feel - HT and crew have worked their tails off bringing an enjoyable and social game to us, $15 won't even feed you three times at Del Taco a month. The $15 is a steal for my money. Heck if I knew HT personally I'd pay the $15 and take him out to the bar my treat once a month. And it would still be a bargain.

Beat it.

DamnedRen · « **Reply #79 on:** September 08, 2007, 03:19:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Orwell
Dude, this is the game for me. It has been for 9 months. You all seem to think I am a jerked off little 12 year old, so let me explain what kind of people H2H can cater to.

I'm 22 years old .

I know this might be a silly question but have you ever played golf?
Thanks
Ren

Ghosth · « **Reply #80 on:** September 08, 2007, 08:07:46 AM »

Orwell, so stop buying those expensive other games that you only play for a month or 2 at best and get tired of them. Save your money for AH which WILL feed your addiction. A single high end title is 50$ thats 3 months of AH plus.
Unlimited hours, unlimited entertainment, and tons of laughs from reading ch 200 and the bbs. Its the cheapest entertainment in town, 50 cents a day is nothing.

2$ and hour with a 30 $ minimum charge, that will give you pause.
Esp if your on the low income side like me. But Hitech changed all that forever.

Until or unless Hitech can figure out a way to keep it hacker safe H2H is dead.
H2H is basically asking for dev resources to fix the problem, but it doesn't really give anything back for the fix. Yes you hook a percentage of people, who go on to subscribe, but you'll hook those with or without the H2H.

pluck · « **Reply #81 on:** September 08, 2007, 08:20:17 AM »

heh Orwell, never post angry or intoxicated for that matter. Then again, it does lead to some "interesting" topics.... Well welcome to the MA if you get there- Vast

68ROX · « **Reply #82 on:** September 08, 2007, 11:50:42 AM »

I am a paying subscriber, but used to host H2H from time to time as well.

Being a host was not easy....

"Turn up the ammo load"....

"Turn off the wind above 10K"......

"Turn down the ammo lethality".....

And worse yet...no one seemed to pay JACK to attention to the MOTD about keeping sides even. I'd go watch TV for a couple of hours and come back to find 8 guys on one side pounding undefended bases.

On the other side there were quite a few GREAT players, who would come in and play for HOURS...keeping the whiners in line, and generally making it a nice arena to play. It also gave newer players a place to get some learning time in....then encourage them to become a subscriber and join the MA....at least I did.

I would LOVE to see H2H come back...not in it's former format...

My idea:

Rooms would hold a maximum of 21 players, and H2H'ers COULD form H2H squads (on a seperate from MA basis).

Rooms would have ALL THE SAME DEFAULTS as MA! If the WHOLE IDEA is to get folks to upgrade to MA...giving them 40000 rounds of cannon in a Hurri won't help them to intigrate into MA society very well.

A player can play H2H under the same account for a maximum of 1 YEAR...and is then required/encouraged (a "One Month Free" promotional carrot dangling here would help)...to upgrade to full subscription.

Hosts will have a seperate "HOSTING" H2H ID, different from their MA ID, and would have to log in to the H2H hosting with that seperate ID/PW.

Hosts would have to be paying subscribers, with some form of online training in hosting, a step-by step with trainers and be certified to host. Same .eject privelideges as before for buttnuggetts that can't behave, and PERMANENT ejection for those who are repeat offenders.

Repeat offenders and those who attempt to tamper with the CODE will have their H2H account REVOKED WITHOUT REFUND, and will be unable to apply for another H2H account.

Host's chat will be in BLUE text....this let's all H2H'ers know that the room is being OFFICIALLY MONITORED.

If hosted on the "host's" computer, a minimum system requirement is needed to ensure that the host's computer and connection was "UP" to standards. If hosted on HTC's servers...it's not a problem.

The same "monitoring" system of voice and chat, and same reporting of abuse of these privelidges as in MA. It would be up to the room HOST to monitor the chat and the room...NOT HTC. Those folks have enough to do already. By having trained "Hosts" as babysitters, if you will...takes HTC out of the H2H babysitting business, and puts it in the hands of the trained HOST.

A $5 a month for H2H only fee...that could be purchased either online or via the mail in 2, 6, 10, and 12 month blocks...to keep the paperwork at HTC to a minimum. Blocks could be purchased like "gift cards".

Hosts who took time out to help host, train, and mentor new players (and ESPECIALLY encourage them to be FULL subscribers) could earn "referral credits"....each H2H player that upgrades to full MA subscription and STAYS full membership for at least 6 months earns that host 1 "referral credit". For each FIVE referrals that stay....that host gets one free month off their own personal subscription. When that H2H'er signs up...a question box in the sign-up would say "Were you referred to sign up for full membership by a Head-to-Head room host?"...just fill in the ID of the host.

Hosts could rotate maps, host "Extreme Racing H2H Leagues", gv only maps, cv-vs-cv maps, and yes, goofy maps like Los Angeles, Hawaii, and Chicago, as long as they were approved of by HTC in advance.

If even a small part of the marketing of FREE H2H was to give players a "taste" and sign up for the FULL subscription...let's give 'em A REAL TASTE!

If we, as players REALLY want to see HTC grow, with bigger and better arenas, graphics, more planes, etc., then a small portion of that success just might rest on OUR shoulders.

Just an idea....

68ROX

FBplmmr · « **Reply #83 on:** September 08, 2007, 06:32:51 PM »

I was thinking about the one time fee concept today and decided to call my cable company.

I explained how there was alot of channels I didn't really watch and how their
monthly subscription was tooo high.

They agreed with me and so I just made a one time payment (I got to decide how much) and now I get the channels I want and I don't have to pay a subscription!

Life is good:aok

BaDkaRmA158Th · « **Reply #84 on:** September 09, 2007, 02:43:50 AM »

68 i <> you.

Just the mindset we need.

For the life of me i cannot understand why people who pay to play in the MA feal the need or obligation "OR RIGHT" to STOMP another man down because hes doesnt pay.

get off your high horse and realise when you say "freeloader" its the same thing as walking by a homeless person and calling them a bumb.*GET A JOB SLOB* or walking past someone with brain damage and calling them a RETARD.

Do you see the HTC staff disrespecting the "freeloaders"?
No, not a second.

What big proud men we have here.

DaddyAck · « **Reply #85 on:** September 09, 2007, 05:03:01 AM »

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Originally posted by technical
Whenever my friend hosts his room, it's 2x ammo and .5 fuel burn, only BECAUSE we like to stay up for a while scorching the noobs. after 10 kills we're ready for a new plane. Remember, when you look back and see me, i'll be aiming for your engine.

Im not trying to be terribly mean here, but try a regular ammo loadout and a fuel burn multiplier of 2. It is a totally different ball game in the pay arenas, and I welcome you to try and "aim for my engine" as I and most of my paying buddies are no slouch behind the stick.

kj714 · « **Reply #86 on:** September 09, 2007, 01:15:47 PM »

"Do you see the HTC staff disrespecting the "freeloaders"?
No, not a second."

LOL!

No, they just killed ya's off.

The rest of us who pay the full price aren't going to have much sympathy for those want to argue the game should continue to be free or available to them at a token price for whatever reason.

I knew this was coming with all the stupid stuff going on with the free side. It's important to note that free multiplayer was not hosted by HTC nor was it monitored much either, thereby creating the opportunity for someone to get in there and experiment like they did.

This is just my humble opinion, but it seems then that HTC doesn't want to leave a breeding ground open for freeplayer terrorists as sooner or later that will cause problems in the MA. So the question becomes kill it or bring it onto the MA servers where it can be closely monitored. Geez, now you've got free-play eating up bandwidth and staff resources that should go to pay-for-play. Also, the game is hugely popular, there is absolutely no reason to have a free-play area to get people hooked, the two-weeker does that just fine.

The bottom line is a few bad apples spoiled it for the rest of the free-player world, but it was good while it lasted, don't be sad, and quit trying to convince everyone else the world would be better off if you could keep playing for free somehow. HTC was being nice having it open in the first place, the charity was, as usual, disrespected in the end.

reeb · « **Reply #87 on:** September 09, 2007, 03:19:01 PM »

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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
68 i <> you.

Just the mindset we need.

For the life of me i cannot understand why people who pay to play in the MA feal the need or obligation "OR RIGHT" to STOMP another man down because hes doesnt pay.

get off your high horse and realise when you say "freeloader" its the same thing as walking by a homeless person and calling them a bumb.*GET A JOB SLOB* or walking past someone with brain damage and calling them a RETARD.

Do you see the HTC staff disrespecting the "freeloaders"?
No, not a second.

What big proud men we have here.

~~If you dont like the answers or replys you get maybe try posting the H2H junk in the H2H forum.~~

Meatwad · « **Reply #88 on:** September 09, 2007, 04:11:43 PM »

No discounts.

$14.95 a month for full access.

H2H permanently disabled

Easy fix

It isnt hard to get a job. If 14.95 a month breaks you, then you should look into managing finances a little better. Cable/satellite TV and internet access arent needs, they are wants. They arent a necessity for living so cutting both of them off would save you at least $60 a month for bills.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #89 on:** September 09, 2007, 08:32:18 PM »

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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
get off your high horse and realise when you say "freeloader" its the same thing as walking by a homeless person and calling them a bumb.*GET A JOB SLOB* or walking past someone with brain damage and calling them a RETARD.

No, it's not. If you look in their forums, they often admit they could pay, they just don't want to. They have lots of reasons, none legitimate, and they simply continue this little campaign because they view a free H2H as something they are entitled to.

Now, if I walk past a bum on street, and he asks me for 15 bucks, admitting that he's just not interested in working for it, I am going to call him a lazy bum, and I will be correct in doing so, even if it's unkind.