Solution to hoing

[trigger2]

Originally posted by LCPD23
I was wondering if there would be anyway that when somebody hoes another person that both planes would go down and neither one would be rewarded a kill. I think if that was done then that would force alot of ppl to stop hoing and dogfight like it should be done. I don't think it is right for there to be a head on collision and one plane go down and the other get the kill. In real life if two planes collide both would go down so lets make it like that. I am sure it would force all of these lil ppl who can't dogfight to learn how to. If anyone would like this to happen please leave comments on it. Thanks

not really
but as i said in another post
amazing manuvers, split s, flips, turns, wide barrel rolls.
add a combo of a barrel roll and a split s/flip and your on their 6.
learn to beat em in the HO and eventually theyll learn to fly.

HOing is only a bad idea if the other guy is a better pilot than you. Ironically, the only way to find out whether or not he is better, is to HO him.

that's not always true
the kill usually goes to the guy with the higher cal. guns. unless theyre completly new and can't shoot.

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Ghosth

Its past time the AH community accepted that a forward quarter shot in a energy or turn fight is NOT a HO.

I can't speak for the community - I don't know what each incident we all hear about on 200 involved.  Whether the "HO" (as they call it) occurred after the first merge, or from high and above on a BnZ bounce, was in fact, an actual HO, or whatever.

What I can say is that there are certainly plenty of people in this community who fall back on the "It takes 2 to HO" argument as some sort of all-covering shield when one guy made it painfully obvious he wasn't going for it on the first merge.

I'm sorry, but many people in this community "didn't HO," for the single reason that the other guy didn't give them the opportunity to joust.  

Well, whatever makes 'em feel better

Anyway, LCPD...  Once you learn just how big of a hole the guy who went for the face shot dug himself into, you'll never want any code to eliminate HOs.  It pretty much guarantees you good position after the merge 95% of the time (yeah, you're gonna get nailed sometimes, but not that often - ask one of the furballers to show you a few ways around it).

[Tiger]

Originally posted by Nimrod45

Tigerguy I would expect a P-51 stick to not like the LA since it is one of the few that can run them down when they tuck tail.

Only time I fly P-51's is when it's a mission plane.  I've only flown the La-7 a handful of times and really didn't care much for it.

I'm normally on offensive missions, so I carry something with some a descent amount of ord or a nice cannon package (P-47, D-Hog, or 110).  Or I'll try to bust the CAP and up something to go nice and slow and try to pick of vulchers.

I ran across that on Wiki when I was looking to see if there was an La-9 that saw service.  I just thought it was fitting for this thread.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Ghosth
A "hot merge" where one or both pilots have forward quarter shots in a manuver or energy fight is NOT and never WILL be a HO.

I completely agree with this ... except the "both" ... you cannot have both pilots getting a forward quarter shot at the same time on a merge.

A correct "HO" is when 2 planes fly directly at each other and both have a guns solution and fire at each other.

If a plane comes at me with the intention of a HO (you can tell when they are trying) or not, and I can create enough separation to be able to pull a lead turn, and there is an available front quarter shot at the merge ... I WILL TAKE IT.
 
This is not a HO, and this is what most people mistake as an HO and whine about it. If I rake you from cockpit to tail ... and you don't have a guns solution on me ... then it's not an HO ... you have been damaged and/or killed by a "deflection" shot.

After the merge ... any time I get a guns solution, you can bet the ranch that I will take the shot ... no questions asked.

[Tiger]

Here's a solution to HO'ing

Options:
1)  Turn Left
2) Turn Right
3) Climb
4) Dive
5) Combination of 1 or 2 with 3 or 4

[Latrobe]

You forgot #6) Pull trigger