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Offline Mickey1992

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« on: September 25, 2007, 08:12:11 AM »
A good read from Michael Totten in Iraq.

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/001519.html

“What’s the most important thing Americans need to know about Iraq that they don’t currently know?” I said.

“That we’re fighting Al Qaeda,” he said without hesitation. “[Abu Musab al] Zarqawi invented Al Qaeda in Iraq. The top leadership outside Iraq squawked and thought it was a bad idea. Then he blew up the Samarra mosque, triggered a civil war, and got the whole world’s attention. Then the Al Qaeda leadership outside dumped huge amounts of money and people and arms into Anbar Province. They poured everything they had into this place. The battle against Americans in Anbar became their most important fight in the world. And they lost.”
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2007, 10:23:52 AM »
I hear from alot of grunts that Anbar is not what it was even 2 years ago.  2 years ago it was a major hotzone.  Now....quiet as a mouse.
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Offline john9001

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2007, 11:06:26 AM »
shhhhhh, you will get the anti-war people upset.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2007, 12:40:03 PM »
Good read. thks for posting it.
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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2007, 01:29:15 PM »
OBL is very very upset at the democrats for not ending this lousy war that the americans are losing.  Truth is, whoever is elected President will keep American forces in Iraq.  We are there to stay.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2007, 02:20:15 PM »
If you think Anbar is quiet because of the surge you are really brainwashed. Anbar is quiet because the Sunnis want it that way. And why? Because they know we are leaving soon and want to consolidate power NOW. The surge went almost exclusively into Baghdad.
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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2007, 02:24:12 PM »
ah... I see... the democrat stategy of "run and hide" has pacified a whole region.

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2007, 03:37:25 PM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
If you think Anbar is quiet because of the surge you are really brainwashed. Anbar is quiet because the Sunnis want it that way. And why? Because they know we are leaving soon and want to consolidate power NOW. The surge went almost exclusively into Baghdad.


Post a link, please.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2007, 03:48:37 PM »
The only reason Al-Qaeda ever existed to the scale it did in Iraq is because we invaded.  That's it.  So we're not winning anything by putting out a fire we started, we're just back at square one.  The bottom line is, why hasn't the administration been charged with misleading the American public to war?  They told us there were WMDs in Iraq and that turned out to be a flat out lie.  We invaded because we had undeniable intelligence according to those in charge.  They should be held accountable for this misjudgment and for destroying the lives of thousands of Americans and wasting billions of taxpayer Dollars.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2007, 03:57:17 PM »
soviet, can you prove that saddam did not have WMD before the invasion, and that he did not hide them in the desert and/or move them to Syria?

Of course you can't, but you just keep banging that same old drum, no WMD---no WMD---no WMD.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2007, 03:57:32 PM »
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The only reason Al-Qaeda ever existed to the scale it did in Iraq is because we invaded.  That's it.  So we're not winning anything by putting out a fire we started, we're just back at square one.  The bottom line is, why hasn't the administration been charged with misleading the American public to war?  They told us there were WMDs in Iraq and that turned out to be a flat out lie.  We invaded because we had undeniable intelligence according to those in charge.  They should be held accountable for this misjudgment and for destroying the lives of thousands of Americans and wasting billions of taxpayer Dollars.


Post a link please.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2007, 04:00:12 PM »
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Post a link please.


post a link for what?  Did i hit a nerve? Did we find some wmds an hour ago?
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Offline SteveBailey

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2007, 04:05:34 PM »
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 The bottom line is, why hasn't the administration been charged with misleading the American public to war?  They told us there were WMDs in Iraq and that turned out to be a flat out lie.  


Are you going to indict  every Senator that told us there were WMD's in Iraq too?  They "misled" us just at much as the POTUS did and it was their votes that enabled the administration to go to Iraq. Why would you stop at the administration if you really wanted to see justice done.  Why wouldn't you want the rest of our leaders held accountable?

Maybe you just are a Boosh hater... or do you really want to all see those who "misled" us  taken? to task?
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2007, 04:06:40 PM »
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If you think Anbar is quiet because of the surge you are really brainwashed. Anbar is quiet because the Sunnis want it that way. And why? Because they know we are leaving soon and want to consolidate power NOW. The surge went almost exclusively into Baghdad.


The people I know that are over there say the that the surge has worked.

As for Anbar being quiet, that is mostly a result of the US using it's troops in a different manner and because of a commander (Patreus) who actually understands the issues at hand, and is making large strides towards helping the people of Iraq.
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2007, 04:06:59 PM »
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If you think Anbar is quiet because of the surge you are really brainwashed. Anbar is quiet because the Sunnis want it that way. And why? Because they know we are leaving soon and want to consolidate power NOW. The surge went almost exclusively into Baghdad.


What evidence, if any, do you have to support your anti-American-success view?
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