Radar busting

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Solar10
Storch is a moderator

I believe those who are a "moderator" on a squad forum can't be "ignored".

[DoNKeY]

Ok, so I have been in the DA recently working with some nice folks on my 1v1 fights.  I'll be on tonight, and I'm already fidgety with anticipation lol.  Ok, what state do you live in, and what time will you be on?  That way I can work around the time zone differences.  Hope to be up there escorting!:aok

donkey

[DoNKeY]

Originally posted by storch
I take a dim view of porkers in general and an even dimmer view of dedicated radar porkers.

I like the opposing teams to have their radar.  I like them to see the red dot that represents me to be visible.  I like that feature because it provides the promise of a fight.  when I take off I do so in the hope of encountering another like minded player or three. I want to be found!!!!

what you like to do impedes what I like to do.  what I do has no impact on what you do hence the classic furballer/toolshedder schism.  I believe you should switch to bish, find a nice bish squad that likes what you like and fly with their horde.  I suggest the FoSGs they are just that way.  it should be a perfect fit for you.  a useless skwad dedicated to toolshedding and game interrrupting sociopathic behavior.  sadly this is the way the game is going.  the ack runners radar porkers toolshedders gangers spawn hanger campers and other limpwristed behavior has become the norm but it wasn't always this way.

yesterday afternoon I was cruising at 8k in a 190A-5 looking for a fight near a nit base.  some player (perhaps yourself?) with your mindset had porked all opposition team front line radar making finding a fight an arduous task.  finally a P47N bounces from the AKAKosphere!!!!  it takes me ten minutes to wear down his E advantage and somewhat level the playing field as I pull the hapless fellow into what was his final rope, from my blind side a friendly in an La-7 swoops in and kills the floundering P47 and over range tells me +CLEAR+ in a proud and confident voice.

the clueless countryman probably did what he expected he would need someone to do for him were the situation reversed.

that fight embodies my ardent desire to see killshooter eliminated.  if it were I would shoot your radar porking bombers and I would have shot down that boyscout helpful countryman too.

In my honest opinion, I think that is a load of bull.  Porking front line radars??  I guess he'll just have to ask on 200 next time if there's going to be cons at the altitude he plans on flying at, and where he plans on bombing, and not go till there is.

Plus, 95% that I know a radar is down at a certain base, ESPECIALLY a front line base, I know that there is action there, or will be shortly (if they sent someone ahead to hit it).  

PS:  I think your third paragraph is the most ignorant thing I have read in a long time.  If you don't like your FRONT LINE radars being hit, why don't you cap one of them.  

In my opinion whining about someone "porking" radars on an enemies front should be pretty low on the list; there are a lot worse things.

donkey

[Rich46yo]

In my opinion he's quite mad. Storchy should lay off the energy drinks or maybe go out on a date or something. To me "sociopathic behavior" is when I show up somewheres and theres seven bodies with bullets holes in them. Thats "real bodies" with "real bullet holes".

                          Storchy you gotta lighten up kid. The rest of us aren't playing this game to worship you, play your way, or help you run your kill count up. We dont care if theres a nice functioning radar up so you can go directly to the fighters you want to furball with. Dude, that post was just amazing.....Storchy!

                          Tellya what Storchy? You and me will start from scratch. "Give me a pound dog"! We'll forget you entire post.

                           Donkey Im usually on from about 1600 EST to 2100 or 2200 est. Lately Ive been in the Blue MA. I did make two radar runs tonight, took down two radars, aced 2 fighters, till the blighters got me. The next one I aced a fighter but got damage so I brought the KI's home. Normally I'd keep going but I had something to do.

                       It would be great to fly with you sir. I'd feel a lot better with a Pony watching my back.

[storch]

rich, I might have more time on the crapper than you have on the planet.  forget nothing.

[Major Biggles]

i do agree with some of the things storch said though rich. you like bombing, i like fighting (furballing/duelling) and when friendly and enemy dar is up it means both sides can find a fight nice and quickly.

if a base is really under attack, then by all means bomb the place to smithereens, all part of the fun! what gets me, and i think storch too, is why some guys go out of their way to pork dar and things at bases that aren't under attack and a nice fight is going on, because it can end up ruining the fight, which many people were really enjoying.

it's great you have your fun, just try to make sure you're not deliberately trying to ruin the fun of others




when i was new i loved bombing everything. i used to run HQ missions alone undetected, hehe, got giggles with that (and i'm sure i pissed a lot of people off lol). the thing is, killing 3d models of houses and hangars gets very boring after a while, while in fighters, each fight is different, different planes, pilots conditions etc.

i've been here 3 yrs now, and this is the only game that has ever really held my attention for a long time, because of that unique experience in every fight. i can understand where storch is coming from, because i get really ANGRY when some buff pilot comes through and bombs the CV in the middle of an awesome sea furball, or the tard that bombs fighter town FH's, because they're deliberately spoiling my fun. some tosser spoils a good fight, and there aren't any others going on, sometimes i just log right off because i get so annoyed.

i don't like the swarms of lgays and b24s decending on a base, whether i'm with em or against em! 'win the war' just really isn't my thing, and MANY people feel exactly the same way.

hope you understand where we're coming from now?

[Rich46yo]

Major I radar bust only frontline bases where action is going on. I thought I made that clear.

                                  As to other targets? I wish I had the means to take out their radars before I bombed them. For instance the strats that are within radar range of a nearby elevated airbase. Why would any bomber stick be stupid enough to leave a radar up, if he didn't have to, leaving little red dots for the enemy to fly directly to?

                               The point here is to each their own. For me chasing my tail in fighters, while in a furball, is BORING! And if you want to find a "fight" then I suggest going to the first enemy airbase with huge dars and 90 of your own little green dots flying around on the map. Thats where 99% of the fighters live anyways. Leaving radars up so you can save gas and shoot down my own teams bombers and Jabos more easily???? Gee how sporting of me that would be. I am just crushed I force you and Storchy to burn your cartoon energy, and cartoon gas, in your cartoon airplanes, and impede your shooting down my own teams cartoon airplanes. Oh the Horror!

                               You get mad when a bomber stick bombs a CV during a furball? Dude thats what bomber sticks are supposed to do. Your another one!

                               Tellya what, I get mad when 5 fighters gang up on my bombers when Im IB to a target. Hows that?

                              I understand exactly where your coming from. You and Storchyboy are selfish and expect others to play according to your rules. I understand completely! Another Red Baron.

[Nilsen]

You get mad when 5 guys "gang up" on your bombers?? Spend the time climbing and you wont find 5 guys bothering to grab to 20-25k for you.

Most fun thing in the game is to climb up and pluck down bomber guys that have spent the better part of the day climbing  Oh and when im in bombers i really hope someone climbs up to me so i can try to shoot them down..

this is not Aces Evading Combat High 2

[Spikes]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
You and Storchyboy are selfish and expect others to play according to your rules. I understand completely! Another Red Baron.

Uh...oh

[Major Biggles]

errrrrrr, lol rich, why so aggressive? i wasn't getting aggressive with you (although storch may have been a bit forceful).

i was purely explaining that you should have you fun, but try to keep an eye out not to deliberately spoil a lot of fun for others. if let's say there's a great furball going on, and you up to go kill just FH's at one of the bases,  deliberately trying to stop the fight and ruin people's fun, just for the sake of pissing people off, (or some win the war jackprettythanges think that furballs are a waste of their teams resources and try to limit their own team's fighting ability, so that the fighter sticks will attack bases instead of other planes)

that to me is a LOT more of a selfish attitude than furballers getting pissed with toolshedders, if you see where i'm coming from?

that was storches point about being a sociopath (deliberately being an arse to get a rise out of people)


i'm not saying you are at all, just saying, just try to make sure you're not doing that.

let's say there's a great CV fight going on (your CV close to a base), and you are on your way to bomb the enemy FH's, but when you get there you see a lot of people having fun, so instead you take out all the ord at that base (your ki67 would be great at this) and try to take out ord at any nearby bases. isn't that nicer? you're bombing stuff and having fun in the thick of the battle, and HELPING your team's fight by making sure the other guys can't kill the CV


now that is team playing, to me. doing what you can to help your team in what they're doing, be it spotting for friendly GV's, clearing the way for a friend's buffs etc. in this case it's helping those in your team to keep the fight that they're enjoying alive

rich, hope you don't think i was getting on your back too much, didn't mean to sound like that, just a friendly explaination of why some fighter guys get annoyed with toolshedders

[SuBWaYCH]

Rich, Having fun is what matters.You porked knights radar, so what??? The knights are gonna have to shut up and deal with it.






P.S. BIGGLES YOUR MY HERO

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Tiger
Storch:  I'm proud of you, you almost let this post go an hour without bring up the BoPs.  Seems like you have some sort of fascination with them.  Did you ask to join and they turned you away?  Do you envy them and wish you had a squad like theirs?

You should see his text on green channel.   You'll laugh.

[Major Biggles]

Originally posted by SuBWaYCH
P.S. BIGGLES YOUR MY HERO

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Lumbergh
ok its only my first tour but this is a game, the object is to win by taking bases, disabling enemy radar is one part of a strategy to take bases. wth is wrong with that?
I might argue that making no attempt to take bases and move the game on while only furballing is "game interrrupting behavior" ...

a couple of nights ago Knights were on a Blitzkrieg rolling a base every 10mins or so. I upped in 17s and blinded the 3 frontline bases, finished the ords at 2 of them, then blinded the next 3.
I'd say thats a good use of resources and a contribution to the team effort. especially as it usually pulls a couple of fighters away from their defense too - like its worth chasing buffs at 20k ...

The object of the game is to have fun.
Are you having fun?

If the answer is yes.
then the objective has been reached.

I enjoy all aspects of the game. From furballing to GVing to baseporking.
Depending on how I feel like having fun at that particular moment.

As for the original post. there is some great fun to be had at porking a bases dar,Troops or ammo. then being chased by 5 or 6 of the now angry opponents.

Not only are you guarentted a fight.  But because its you against many. Its guarateed to be a challange.

Typically my favorite Base type targets to be porked is I find where the hord is trying to take a base through overwhelming numbers. and instead of taking out Dar. I'll kill off ammo.

This makes it more difficult for the hordwarriors to just milkrun a base to death and pretty much guarantees a fiurball. Or at least forces the opponents to fly farther to bomb the base

But dont listen to the cries of "toolshedder"
Furballing can be just as mindless. Going round and round in circles fighting for nothing more then to fight again.

But like toolshedding its another way to have fun.

bottom line is if your having fun.
Have at it.
THAT is the objective of the game

[Rich46yo]

Nilsen I do believe you missed my point. Try reading it again.

                          Biggles, I hurried my post cause I had to go to work. I did not mean to be aggressive to you. You did post as a gentleman, even if your thought process is skewed. Tellya the truth until Storchy and you posted I had absolutely no idea I was "ruining anyone's fun". Ive only been in this game for a few months.

                        Mind you Im still going to do it because its fun for me and its not against any rules. So far two people have weighed in against it. And frankly, I'll go to my grave wondering how bombing cartoon radars, with cartoon bombers, is ruining anyone's fun. Maybe its just not my generation.

                     Srorchy needs a little time away from the computer I think. If he wants to see sociopaths I have an open invitation to let him meet some. I mean get a grip guys. And The problem with "pretending to be an arse" is you leave a lot of people in your wake "thinking your an arse", so its best not even to pretend.

                  I do bomb stuff. All kinds of stuff. I take bombers up to 12,000' to 20,000' and bomb every type of target in the game. I fly bombers exclusively and have started running goons for my team. I call for targets and when teammates give me targets that need hitting, I hit them! You thought all I do is bomb radars??? I man the guns around airfields and kill the vulchers too. Actually the only type of target I haven't bombed is a CV. So I guess were square right?

               Probably the reason I dont join the Knights is I like flying against them. They have some terrific sticks many of whom are true gentleman. You have to fly against guys like that to grow.