Author Topic: Are you Scared? (Read 2468 times)

rpm · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2007, 11:40:43 PM »

I don't know of a terrorist with a name that rhymes with "Dubya".

Don't try and play the "high and mighty" card. Republican, Democrat, Independant, Green Party.... I don't care what party you belong to, it's unfounded slander and you should be ashamed to call yourself an American citizen to play along with it.

Judge the candidate on his record and qualifications. Not on what his name rhymes with. It's low, childish and petty.

cav58d · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2007, 11:45:18 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm
I don't know of a terrorist with a name that rhymes with "Dubya".

Don't try and play the "high and mighty" card. Republican, Democrat, Independant, Green Party.... I don't care what party you belong to, it's unfounded slander and you should be ashamed to call yourself an American citizen to play along with it.

Judge the candidate on his record and qualifications. Not on what his name rhymes with. It's low, childish and petty.

I never played along with or condoned any of it...Both sides are wrong and childish if you ask me...And no high and mighty card here...I withdrew my membership from the GOP months ago, and don't allign myself with any political party.

Thrawn · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2007, 11:47:48 PM »

I worry about what the future brings. But perhaps I'm not a worried as some because I am trying to prepare for it. And every crisis offers opportunities that are prepared for it. If events follow as I believe they will then the majority might suffer, but I think my family with survive and maybe even thrive.

rpm · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2007, 11:50:37 PM »

We need a Cheeky Monkey Party.

Saxman · « **Reply #19 on:** October 09, 2007, 12:14:08 AM »

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My two most important qualitys that I would look for in a candidate would be 1- Someone who listens to and entertains the idea of opposition, and is even willing to cross party lines to make the right decision for the United States....and 2- Someone who is willing to work for the people of the United States first! We have done a lot of great things (and er...bad) for people around the world, but we still have our handful of problems at home.....Maybe we can address them too.

The problem with idealism is that sooner or later, you get dragged back down to earth...

1 - Good luck. Politicians, like the majority of this country, are obsessed with the party line. The party gives them their power-base, and they have to suck up to the party to get the nomination, so why on EARTH would they challenge that?

2 - Sorry again. The government doesn't work for the American people anymore, they work for the businesses and special interest groups.

It sucks and I agree with you on how I WISH it worked but this is real life, and real life sucks cheeky monkey balls.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #20 on:** October 09, 2007, 01:05:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Saxman
2 - Sorry again. The government doesn't work for the American people anymore, they work for the businesses and special interest groups.

Are there any business or special interest groups that do not have people?

rpm · « **Reply #21 on:** October 09, 2007, 02:38:42 AM »

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So do I undestand correctly that you take offense at MoveOn too, or is it just Republicans you take offense with?

I take it you are referring to the NY Times "Petraeus Betray Us" ad.

I do not and never will condone such slander. General David H. Petraeus has been put between a rock and a very hard place. If President Bush had paid any attention at all to him and gave him command right after the fall of Baghdad, we would be looking at a very, very different Iraq today.

Instead, years later he was handed a broken kite and told to make it fly. The natives have been soured to our soldiers and insurgents have turned this into a civil holy war. Bush handed him a pig in a poke and made him dance. I'm not sure electricity and running water will get it done now.

David Petraeus is not at fault.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #22 on:** October 09, 2007, 03:22:52 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
I take it you are referring to the NY Times "Petraeus Betray Us" ad.

I do not and never will condone such slander.

Good. Next time there is a shot below the belt from either (or any) side, whether it be MoveOn or Coulter, Clinton or Newt I am sure we will see it the same way.

Dadano · « **Reply #23 on:** October 09, 2007, 04:04:51 AM »

Everything is fine. Turn on the TV and pass the cheesepuffs.

x0847Marine · « **Reply #24 on:** October 09, 2007, 06:00:06 AM »

The situation in this country is beyond hopeless. I see no peaceful way to dethrone the ruling parties before they both drive this country into pablum.

Phaser11 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 09, 2007, 06:35:23 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
We need a Cheeky Monkey Party.

I'm in!
Should we have a Prime Minister, King, Emperor or something else?

Anything is better than the "dogs chasing the garbage truck race" we have now.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #26 on:** October 09, 2007, 06:38:32 AM »

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I am flat out disguted with our system.

Thats about it in a nutshell

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I'm not willing to give up on the country, this isn't the first time we have had problems with lousy politicians. I have a bit of faith that there will be a corection in the problem.

When was the last time we didnt have lousy politicians?
Looking at the current feild. What ray of sunshine do you see on the horizon? Cause I cant see it

Not comming from the two big parties anyway

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #27 on:** October 09, 2007, 06:43:08 AM »

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The party system wouldn't be so bad if people actually EXERCISED their freedom to chose, rather than letting themselves be railroaded up the bellybutton by the party line.

All you need to do is look at THIS board to see how frelled up we are as a nation. The Conservatives bash the Liberals just because they're Liberals, the Liberals bash the Conservatives just because they're Conservatives. NONE of the rabid sheeple bleating what the parties have crammed down their throats are even willing to stop and at least CONSIDER what the other side is saying before lighting up the napalm and Molotov Cocktails and letting fly at each other.

Blame it on the politicians all you want, the AMERICAN PEOPLE are still the ones that are letting them get away with ****ting on the Constitution and wiping their tulips with it, and disregard what's good for the PEOPLE, rather than what's best for their own agendas and the special interest groups they're bending over for all for their political muscle (be it the bleeding hearts, the ultra religious right, etc). Maybe if the majority of Americans actually exercised their voice in the government RESPONSIBLY instead of vomiting up the party line bull**** they've allowed themselves to be force-fed things might actually IMPROVE around here.

Does anyone in this nation even UNDERSTAND the implications of "Of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE, for the PEOPLE."

I guess that's the one failure of any Republic. When government rests in the hands of the people, the ones who are TRULY to blame is not the system itself, but the ones who PUT those making the ****-up of things in power. Until the sheep grow wise to the sheppard, the cycle of stupidity will never end.

BINGO! Give this man a cigar!

Thats right. So long as everyone votes the party rather then the person.
And only votes for one of the two biggies things will never change.
And we will get exactly the government we deserve.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #28 on:** October 09, 2007, 06:50:26 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm

Judge the candidate on his record and qualifications. Not on what his name rhymes with. It's low, childish and petty.

Problem is as usual adults rarely act more mature then children and are often worse with their childishness and pettyness.
And people love a catchphrase.

From "I like IKE" to "If the gove doesnt fit, you must aqquit." To "Its the economy stupid"

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt

Jackal1 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 09, 2007, 07:59:07 AM »

I don`t see a lot of good change coming to this country until people are willing to rock their own boat to get it done.
At this point way too much importance is placed on who is elected President and not near enough on other matters.
We have let the Presidency become not much more than a figurehead . That is a big problem in itself.
In that area about all that can be done is to go with the lesser of two evils at this stage until and if change comes.
We need pretty much a groundup overhaul. The people of this country need to remember that it is our country and the words public servant is not just some catchy phrase.