Welsh Joke

[Arlo]

Sorry guys, didn't realize you really were already at meltdown level when I made my suggestions. Carry on.

[Neubob]

Right on Arlo...

We should just love and hug them into submission.

Continue to drop smart bombs until they realize that allah loves the west too.

Continue to send soldiers into a meat-grinder that is largely supplied and operated by the same 'civilians' that they are there to protect.

One day, they are sure to see the light of day.

All the while, their military leaders have no problem plotting the next mass murder of civilians here in the states, or in europe.

But no, really, friendship and love will win out in the end. It always has, afterall.

Wars end when one side is either killed, or realizes that the only result of persistence is certain death. We have yet to convince them of that. A war of ideology or a war of politics, the chemistry is the same. There is really nothing else to it.

[Arlo]

Your car just has two gears don't it? Floor it through your kitchen or peel out reverse through your bedroom, eh?

[Neubob]

My car has plenty of gears, Arlo, so don't pretend to know me, and save your smilies for somebody who likes you. I honestly don't understand how an adult can be anything but extremely unsettled by the current climate--both global and domestic--in respect to this epidemic.

If you think this is just a fad, you're deluded. If you think this is just a few thousand fanatics acting outside the will of the people, you're deluded. If you think you'll win over the hearts and minds of this poor, down-trodden populace by limiting collateral damage and imposing a democracy they never asked for, you're deluded. If you think that they won't deliver a nuclear device into one of our ports as soon as they are physically able, you are deluded.

And if you think that this isn't cause for 'meltdown mode', you're especially deluded. You never underestimate a rival--especially one that numbers almost a billion strong worldwide. You never underestimate a rival that has demonstrated the willingness and ability to strike first and strike hard...

Laugh and post smilies and make little jokes all you want, but the people on the other side of the equation are not treating this lightly. And if this makes me a fanatic... fine. If we had a few fanatics working out side of the picture, maybe the enemy would be a little more hesitant to act as he has been.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Neubob
I don't think Americans are that apathetic.

I don't really care if we are apathetic or not.  It really makes no difference in the end.

As Tom Servo and Crow (MST 3000) said, "England, the land of jug-earred, chinless stomach-eaters....Still, they're not French."

Here is another bigoted joke:

An Englishman, a Welshman and an Arab are sitting in a bar. The Englishman says, "I've got ten children, one more and I'll have a football team." The Welshman says, "I've got fourteen children, one more and I'll have a rugby team." The Arabian says, "I've got seventeen wives, one more and I'll have a golf course."

[Neubob]

Ok, Holden, I guess I owe you an apology for the hijack.

I'm going to bed.

[FrodeMk3]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
A Welsh farmer, walking through his field, notices a man drinking out of a pond, using one hand.

The Welsh farmer shouted: 'Paid a yfed a dwr, maer gwerthin wedi Cachu un a for.' Which means: 'Don't drink the water - the cows have s**t in it.'

The man shouts back: 'I'm a Muslim, I don't understand.  Please speak English.'

The Welsh farmer says: 'Use two hands, they hold more'!!!

That was as funny as anything I've seen come down the pipe in a while. Thanks for sharing, Holden!

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Neubob
My car has plenty of gears, Arlo, so don't pretend to know me, and save your smilies for somebody who likes you.

Ahhhh ... touched a nerve. But given the meltdown already in progress, there's probably lot's of them already exposed.

Well, here's me making friends and winning over converts.

[Neubob]

Originally posted by Arlo
Ahhhh ... touched a nerve. But given the meltdown already in progress, there's probably lot's of them already exposed.

Well, here's me making friends and winning over converts.

 
Here's the anatomy of the 'meltdown'.

You make a distinction between the terrorist minority and the passive majority--even though it's the passive majority that provides the minority with the moral foundation they depend on to stay so fanatically dedicated, not to mention well-funded.

Your distinction absolves vast numbers of people of any wrongdoing, even though it is the silent, (and often not so silent) approval of these vast numbers of people, as well as their very vocal world-wide public-relations campaign, that builds sympathy for the fanatics, and creates an air of victimization for the rest of them in the eyes of the Western World--a world that has  been castrated by political correctness.

Put simply, Islam is the abusive alcoholic husband, and gentle-minded people that share your politically-friendly view that Islam is a religion of peace are the wife that constantly makes up excuses and blames herself for his actions, all the while proclaiming that deep down inside he is really a good man, and just needs help fixing a few problems.

So while I can just write the abusive husband off as a parasitic waste of humanity, it's the wife that truly frustrates the hell out of me.

The day that the Western world accepts that Islam is at its core a system of indoctrination that lives and thrives off of intolerance, intimidation, backwards thinking, aggressive expansion and wholesale social oppression is the day that the tide turns. Thanks to the prevalence of this heartwarming, yet naive faith in its decency, that day is far off.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Neubob
Here's the anatomy of the 'meltdown'.
 

If by "anatomy of" you meant "rationalization for" .. you bet. The actual terrorists rationalize why they're justified to hate everyone but themselves, as well.

[Neubob]

You don't win wars by fighting just the combatants. You win wars by convincing the infrastructure that supports those combatants, morally or materially, that any further action on their part will lead to total annihilation... This was true with the Japanese...This is especially true with a group as bent on imposing their beliefs on 'infidels' as the Muslims.

Oddly enough, while the Islamic leaders have understood this concept, and mastered this theory, people like you are still out there advocating the kinder, gentler war to win over the populace. The populace has already been won over. They love Allah. They don't love you. They don't want your way of life. They want your obedience... So far they have your sympathy.

[cpxxx]

I have a suspicion that the original joke was different by one word:

A Welsh farmer, walking through his field, notices a man drinking out of a pond, using one hand.

The Welsh farmer shouted: 'Paid a yfed a dwr, maer gwerthin wedi Cachu un a for.' Which means: 'Don't drink the water - the cows have s**t in it.'

The man shouts back: 'I'm English, I don't understand. Please speak English.'

The Welsh farmer says: 'Use two hands, they hold more'!!!

A far more likely version, the Muslim version doesn't ring true. Making jokes about the 'auld' enemy is a long tradition in the British isles. Particularly at the expense of the English.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Neubob
This was true with the Japanese...This is especially true with a group as bent on imposing their beliefs on 'infidels' as the Muslims.

Firstly, that's not even a rational correlation. Secondly, even it if was, only after we nuked them. And it took 2. So it doesn't even support your rationalization then. Like I told you guys before ... it's ok to be angry .... just don't let it override reason. People "like me" (if you knew) aren't talking "huggy-kiss the enemy", sweetie, we're talking "cooler heads." Those are the kind that prevail. Sinking to the terrorist "standard" because you think they got it "right" is not the voice of reason. Why you expect me to think it is because of *your* anger and frustration is ... well ... just as unreasonable.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by cpxxx
I have a suspicion that the original joke was different by one word:

A Welsh farmer, walking through his field, notices a man drinking out of a pond, using one hand.

The Welsh farmer shouted: 'Paid a yfed a dwr, maer gwerthin wedi Cachu un a for.' Which means: 'Don't drink the water - the cows have s**t in it.'

The man shouts back: 'I'm English, I don't understand. Please speak English.'

The Welsh farmer says: 'Use two hands, they hold more'!!!

A far more likely version, the Muslim version doesn't ring true. Making jokes about the 'auld' enemy is a long tradition in the British isles. Particularly at the expense of the English.

And changing jokes to exhibit our own prejudices seldom works. I agree.

[Neubob]

Ok, Arlo, let's try it this way...

Instead of discussing who's irrational, let me propose a hypothetical:

Let's say that you, Arlo, are in charge of this nation's resources. More powerful and autonomous than the president, you can pretty much cause anything to happen, within the limitations of this country's financial and military capacity, with just a word.

Now you're stuck in the same situaiton we're in right now. How do you handle it?

Tell me yours and I'll tell you mine (and it doesn't include a nuke).