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Offline Sundowner

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Grad student suspended after pro gun rights e-mail
« on: October 11, 2007, 04:57:08 AM »
Student sends angry e-mail messages slamming school policy and then is suspended and required to undergo a "mental health evaluation."
http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9795510-38.html



Get in line with the party line or risk being "evaluated".

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 06:43:04 AM »
Well his emails do sound like the work of a luny.

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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 06:53:32 AM »
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Get in line with the party line or risk being "evaluated".
 


You seem to have some anger issues, some feelings of persecution, and a fear of authoritarian figures, Sundowner.  You may also have some indications of some anti-social tendencies.  

You may wish to speak with someone.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 07:16:39 AM »
I can't believe a university won't let a guy with a chip on his shoulder carry a firearm on campus!

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 07:19:58 AM »
Sounds more like a private (I think) university suspended the kid for being a ranting *******, and the media is pretending that the focus of his rant is gun rights to get some easy ratings.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 07:21:03 AM »
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Well his emails do sound like the work of a luny.


Funny, I didn't hear the lunacy in his emails, but rather the frustration building within America that was founded on a damn good Constitution and its following amendments. To me, the schools reaction is more in line with socialized dictatorship.

Think I'll go buy a couple of handguns today before the socialists in this country make it too difficult.

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2007, 07:43:09 AM »
After all, if some wackjob student is running around campus with a gun, what's the worst that could happen?
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 08:32:52 AM »
myelo... good point.. he could cause a lot of damage if no one else was armed

Imagine if they made schools "gun free zones" and disarmed everyone there and then announced to the world that they had done so!

Can you imagine the magnet for nutters that would be!    Hell..  think of how many baby seals a lone nutjob with an gun could club before the cops got there in an hour or ten.

unarmed kids running away screaming... teachers unable to anything but try to hide the kids behind flimsy doors and under desks... imagine the carnage!

hope that never happens.

naaaa... not even the liberals would be that stupid.

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2007, 08:33:05 AM »
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After all, if some wackjob student is running around campus with a gun, what's the worst that could happen?



Its by far safer then the wackjob president we currently have
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 09:09:58 AM »
Here is the "angry" email that the guy sent..  I don't see anything in it that even aproaches the anger and bitterness we see from the minority rights groups or feminists and... I see nothing in it that is not true.

"E-mail from Troy Scheffler to Hamline University Vice President of Student Affairs David Stern, April 17, 2007

From: Troy Scheffler
To: dstern02@hamline.edu
Subject: I dont think the students need the counseling...
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:54 PM

Considering this university also pushes “diversity” initiatives like VA Tech, maybe its “leadership” will reconsider its ban on conceal carry law abiding gun owners... Ironically, according to a few VA Tech forums, there are plenty of students complaining that this wouldnt have happened if the school wouldnt have banned their permits a few months ago...

I just dont understand why leftists dont understand that criminals dont care about laws; that is why they’re criminals... Maybe this school will reconsider its repression of law abiding citizens rights.

Considering that accoriding to the university president that there were recently serious “hate crimes” that were committed in the womens bathrooms; there may be people on the edge ready to snap. I cant say I blame them, I myself am tired of having to pay my own extremely overpriced tuition to make up for minorities not paying theirs. On top of that, I am sick of seeing them held to a different standard than the white students (Of course its a lower and more lenient standard).

Oh by the way, when is your “diversity” department going to include European ancestry?


Respectfully,
Troy Scheffler "

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 09:26:22 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
Here is the "angry" email that the guy sent..  I don't see anything in it that even aproaches the anger and bitterness we see from the minority rights groups or feminists and... I see nothing in it that is not true.

"E-mail from Troy Scheffler to Hamline University Vice President of Student Affairs David Stern, April 17, 2007

From: Troy Scheffler
To: dstern02@hamline.edu
Subject: I dont think the students need the counseling...
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:54 PM

Considering this university also pushes “diversity” initiatives like VA Tech, maybe its “leadership” will reconsider its ban on conceal carry law abiding gun owners... Ironically, according to a few VA Tech forums, there are plenty of students complaining that this wouldnt have happened if the school wouldnt have banned their permits a few months ago...

I just dont understand why leftists dont understand that criminals dont care about laws; that is why they’re criminals... Maybe this school will reconsider its repression of law abiding citizens rights.

Considering that accoriding to the university president that there were recently serious “hate crimes” that were committed in the womens bathrooms; there may be people on the edge ready to snap. I cant say I blame them, I myself am tired of having to pay my own extremely overpriced tuition to make up for minorities not paying theirs. On top of that, I am sick of seeing them held to a different standard than the white students (Of course its a lower and more lenient standard).

Oh by the way, when is your “diversity” department going to include European ancestry?


Respectfully,
Troy Scheffler "

lazs

IMHO it's actually well written and very coherent. Very far from a "nut-job," or "lunatic." The administration didn't like what he wrote so they are trying to silence him.

He is dead on about the part of banning guns on campus. Before April 16th VT campus was a "Gun Free Zone," and we all know how that turned out.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2007, 10:24:33 AM »
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I can't believe a university won't let a guy with a chip on his shoulder carry a firearm on campus!

 Tronsky



You guys never get it, you always find away to defend the wrong.

He didnt HAVE a firearm, he was suspended for saying he SHOULD be able to carry one if the state issued the permit.

Why don't you go look into the crime rate for CCW holders, you may learn something.

I am sure you won't bother though.

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2007, 12:55:07 PM »
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there may be people on the edge ready to snap. I cant say I blame them,  


Somebody writes this and then goes berzerk... there would be no end to the hindsight monday morning quarterback finger pointing idiocy.

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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2007, 01:07:01 PM »
Yikes, not only does he slander anti-gun nuts, but also bashes foreigner's superior equality! :eek:
MT does point out a counter point though, that was badly written, especialy given the precedence of closet nutcases.
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 01:53:47 PM »
"Victim disarmament zone"


Classic. Were I in college, I'd be carrying concealed, legal or not.  I'll do the same when I move to Wisconsin, one of the bastions of anti-gun laws in the US.