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Offline SkyRock

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« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2007, 07:36:55 AM »
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sky  i think you still mad cuz i killed your spit5 with a p40
 
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« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2007, 09:30:25 AM »
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Amazing how someone "who wasn't good enough" can, eh?   I find it funny on how often the Tony is "slammed for being a POS".  

I'll keep landing kills in it, in the LWA's.


Get over it.  Is this going to be your default response every time I talk to you?  I am not the one who said that but if that was the criteria for entering, well, I would have.  You still confuse you beating a newbe with what the plane can actually do.
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« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2007, 09:32:05 AM »
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haha sky thats funny i think you still mad cuz i killed your spit5 with a p40 =P
and i love fighting up hill and do it all the time and you can ask lippy cuz him and i had some awesome p40 v ki84 fights the other night till we both got picked by the high buzzards like dedalos hehe!



Ohhhhhhh, reeb can't take a little joke.  So sad cause I really had a lot of repect for him :rofl
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« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2007, 10:27:37 AM »
Fly the spit9 turns better that the 16.
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« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2007, 10:40:51 AM »
...and the Spit V turns better than either.

Ki-61, I dont fly it much, but its a great fighter too, yep.

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« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2007, 11:39:14 AM »
Thanks for all the great replies all!

I hope I didn't imply that I ONLY fly the spit 16, that's not the case.  BUT, when I'm in one of those situations where there are just red dots everywhere on dar, and you're looking at a 5 mile commute to the fight, the spit has been my go-to plane.  Something that can get up and get going right away.

I've experimented with the hurri some, but I just don't care for it.  

I've flown the 109's a bit, mostly the G-14 and K-4.  I could see how the K-4 would be a good furballer in the sense that it has alot of power, is fast, and I believe it accelerates well.  The lower model 109's though, like the e and F's, I don't know about that.  I might have to try that, but in my fights in  the AvA arena I get my butt kicked in anything but the uber-109's.

I took up an La-7 for 3 sorties the other night, and I just can't stand that plane.  I dunno, maybe I'm predudiced or something because folks rag on it so much, but I just don't see the attraction.

I can't kill anything in a P-40, even in EW, so taking into an LW furball probably isn't going to help my score any!

I think I might try the N1k and Ki-84.  I also experimented with the P-47D11 last night and had a bit of success with it.
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« Reply #66 on: October 18, 2007, 11:41:03 AM »
With respect to the K-4, though, I've had really poor results furballing with that nose cannon.  While I have gotten fighter kills, I haven't gotten many.  I think a good furball plane needs guns that have good snapshot capability like 50 cals or hispanos.
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« Reply #67 on: October 18, 2007, 01:07:38 PM »
thats interesting, for me i find the only thing 30mm is good for is snapshots, and 20mm and .50 far more effective in sustained turning deflections or level chase shots.
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« Reply #68 on: October 18, 2007, 01:22:51 PM »
I've been having insanely good furball luck with the C.205 lately. It has decent climbing, great high yo-yos, isn't too fragile, and a good guns package too. I think the best thing is that many furballers write it off as a non-player, and ignore it for "greater" threats.

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« Reply #69 on: October 18, 2007, 01:44:05 PM »
:lol Funny.  Furball for the most part mean one thing.  You killed the guy that did not see you on time or you died to the guy you did not see on time.  Plane really does not need anything more than speed and cannons for the pick an go.  The few that actually try to pick a fight inside a furball, already are in the plane they like and the don't ask whats plane would be good for it.  Most likely something slow that turns well so they can deal with more than one con at a time.

If you are in a 190 or 51, you are not furballing.  You are flying through a furball and pick your way out of it, but you are not furballing.  Now days a furball is a pick fest :noid
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« Reply #70 on: October 18, 2007, 02:17:30 PM »
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If you are in a 190 or 51, you are not furballing.  You are flying through a furball and pick your way out of it, but you are not furballing.


Not nessesarily true.  I was turning on the deck in my 190A-8.  You just need to stay fast, turn gradually and use the vertical to reverse quickly.

A furball, by it's very nature is a series of ever changing threats and targets.  You don't have to "lock on" or be "locked onto" to be furballing.  If the odds are close to even you can furball in just about anything.

BTW, I've seen some really good P-40 sticks in the middle of a furball.
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« Reply #71 on: October 18, 2007, 02:19:33 PM »
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Not nessesarily true.  I was turning on the deck in my 190A-8.  You just need to stay fast, turn gradually and use the vertical to reverse quickly.

A furball, by it's very nature is a series of ever changing threats and targets.  You don't have to "lock on" or be "locked onto" to be furballing.  If the odds are close to even you can furball in just about anything.

BTW, I've seen some really good P-40 sticks in the middle of a furball.


True, I am talking in general.  There are plenty of exceptions to that.
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« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2007, 03:24:26 PM »
ROFL dedalos what ya mean i cant take a joke? why do you think my post had haha's hehe's and =P's my post was ment in fun
and sky it was the othernight i kilt your spit5 then you came back in a corsair with alt to keel me hehe your memory is getting bad you must have oldtimers ROFL have you been hangin out with Xbrit?

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« Reply #73 on: October 18, 2007, 03:24:44 PM »
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Get over it.  Is this going to be your default response every time I talk to you?  I am not the one who said that but if that was the criteria for entering, well, I would have.  You still confuse you beating a newbe with what the plane can actually do.
Nah.  I don't boast on here (not my style).   I'll keep landing kills in it.   It's fun watching cons "thinking they have an easy kill" and go to the tower.  

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« Reply #74 on: October 18, 2007, 03:39:08 PM »
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I've been eyeing the N1K.  I see alot of folks flying those and the Ki-84, but I'm kinda adverse to Japanese planes because they are so weak.

I can't think of a better dogfighter than the Ki-84.  As Widewing says, you have to fly it within its best envelope, but that's true of most planes, and dogfighting speed is really the Frank's best envelope.  Takes a little learning, but I'd much rather be in a Frank than a Spit.

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