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Offline Louis XVII

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #840 on: December 15, 2007, 02:34:13 PM »
Oh no, not another thread about this...

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #841 on: December 15, 2007, 02:37:55 PM »
For me this keeps coming back to: HOW much 'global warming' has happened thus far? ~ 1 degree since the automobile was invented....how much , if any, caused by us? Unknown

EVERYTHING ELSE isn't HAPPENING, it's merely PREDICTED to happen in the future by the SAME @#$ers who couldn't tell me at 9pm Tuesday  I was gonna have an ice storm on the way to work Wednesday morning
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #842 on: December 15, 2007, 03:31:22 PM »
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Even only a foot a year is still like what, 100 feet in 10 years!





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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #843 on: December 15, 2007, 03:44:33 PM »
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You would have had to have followed another thread to get that one. I'm not naming names here. :D
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #844 on: December 15, 2007, 04:14:38 PM »
WOW!

The Anti-Reality Club (usually defined by politics and party affiliation) is thriving.

Denial and Ignorance= Never having to fix anything.

Preventive Maintenance = Never having to spend all your time fixing something in the future, that could have easily been avoided through denial or ignorance.

In the 70s they used a Indian with a tear to express that man poops in his own back yard.

Today they use scientific lingo and data.

Oh I see, because a particular person says it, and the term used is arguable it makes it ok to deny the core problem in the face of political affiliation. That's the saddest part of this whole thing.

If you remove the term Global Warming you still find that man is completely stupid, ignorant and victim to his own vises.

If you remove the term Global Warming, you will still find that where man pollutes the earth cancer is high, lung problems are growing, asthma is seeking our kids, and medical bills are higher and more frequent.

But, we must bow down to the fact, that since a certain person(s) says it, and uses the term Global Warming, that it makes everything "OK" and supports reason to deny it all. Not because it doesn't exist, but because "who" said it, and the term they used. It's not a fact that bothers some it's the messenger who brings it.

Point being, who here can point out to me what so wrong about breathing cleaner air, living on unpolluted land, and eating food from cleaner waters?

Maybe some throw twice as much trash out their car window to spite the messenger?

Pollution won't kill man, his ignorance will.

Even if Global Warming is a complete utter lie, the by-product of the "scare" seems to be worth it to me. Of course some people are glutens and would rather die of some cancer then even attempt to listen to someone who is from a different political party then their own.

IMO, The denial of Global Warming\Polluting the Earth is not based on fact, it's based on affiliation. Because the facts of what man is doing to himself are a bit over-whelming without the term Global Warming.

People who bring bad news are scary and dangerous, people who deny it all are even more so.

Screw the term Global Warming, is man not destroying himself? IMO chances are you'll die of cancer before Global Warming hits.

The Global Warming debate is not so much factual, as it is political. I think we will all find that those who deny it, also have a very strong political opinion, and probably argue every single point presented by the other side.


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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #845 on: December 15, 2007, 04:23:13 PM »
You missed a group Animal, the group without a religion or cause. Those who had no purpose found a purpose in telling others how to live.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #846 on: December 15, 2007, 04:24:58 PM »
too many people, too little planet.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #847 on: December 15, 2007, 04:54:16 PM »
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too many people, too little planet.


Well, take some personal responsibility and help solve the problem.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #848 on: December 15, 2007, 06:02:01 PM »
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IMeanwhile google bouyancy and see what you come up with.
You'd probably get "Did you mean buoyancy"? :rofl

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #849 on: December 16, 2007, 09:23:35 AM »
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too many people, too little planet.


Too many people of high consumption. Like REALLY high consuption.
The planet would run nicely with 9KK mixture of...chinese :D. Or Lapplanders :D

Anyway, one contribution:

It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #850 on: December 16, 2007, 09:24:41 AM »
Gotta love the IMG button :mad:
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #851 on: December 16, 2007, 09:38:33 AM »
moray..  are you saying that there was no little ice age or medievel warm period as man shows on his laughable hockey stick?   even the UN left it out of their latest report.  Watch bob carters video that was linked here to see how silly the hockey stick is.. I can't believe you are still thinking that is legit.

FT animal..   pollution is not the same as alarmist global warming shouting.   The most savvy environmentalists are now seeing the folly of tying themselves to these guys.   To concentrate on C02 and the earths natural climate cycles is to ignore real problems.

At first.. it all seemed good.. heck.. who cared that they were lying.. so long as it all worked out to save the planet?   "The end justifies the means" as the commies say.

Then they realized that people got only so much resources and angst to go around.. you can't get too into saving the lemon stripped three eyed newt if you are paying an extra buck or six a gallon at the pump for gas and everything you buy costs 20% more than it did... all to cut down on... LOL... C02.

And.. if co2 is such a big deal.. put out the underground coal fires all around the world first.. one fire in china puts out more co2 in a  year than all the light cars and trucks in the U.S.   But.. it's not about "solving the problem" now is it?  it is about a power grab.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #852 on: December 16, 2007, 10:16:38 AM »
The bali convention capitulated to the US you mean don't you louis?   If we wait till 2012 to "chart the change" as they say.. Like the US wanted and got...

Chances are.. we will be in a cooling trend by then and we can all laugh at the alarmists and their "computer models" that can't predict anything but the past and only then.. by "adjusting" the data.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #853 on: December 16, 2007, 10:34:11 AM »
the expression...  "you can't do anything about the weather"  was, and is correct.

Mother nature will smack these arrogant alarmist fools in the butt.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #854 on: December 16, 2007, 12:25:24 PM »
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the expression...  "you can't do anything about the weather"  was, and is correct.  
...but we sure as hell can do something about the billions of tonnes of CO2 we create, much of which gets dissolved into the oceans, much to the detriment of ocean borne micro organisms that are responsible for sustaining all life on this planet.