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Offline AKIron

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #915 on: December 17, 2007, 08:26:56 PM »
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Very little is guaranteed.  That is why absolute statements are rarely made, even when there is a 0.95 probability of something occurring. Any first year science student knows this.


Au contraire, absolutely everything that will be is 100% guaranteed. Now, predicting the future, that's more than a little iffy.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #916 on: December 17, 2007, 09:47:27 PM »
AKH,

You also neglected to read the second sentence I posted as well.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #917 on: December 18, 2007, 12:45:06 AM »
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Au contraire, absolutely everything that will be is 100% guaranteed. Now, predicting the future, that's more than a little iffy.


Philosophical, bordering on metaphysical.
 
You have insurance?

How would you define a probability of 1?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #918 on: December 18, 2007, 08:44:09 AM »
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How would you define a probability of 1?


Yesterday
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #919 on: December 18, 2007, 10:13:13 AM »
AKH..   polar bears are more abundant now than 100 years ago...

Polar bears are an offshoot of the brown bear and have survived much warmer natural periods than this (manns silly hockey stick aside).

They will survive the one degree we may get due to natural causes mostly or the 2 degrees cooling that will probly happen in the next century.  

the one thing that is certain is.....

you can't do anything about the weather.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #920 on: December 18, 2007, 10:15:04 AM »
And what is the probability of tomorrow, next week, next year and the next century?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #921 on: December 18, 2007, 10:38:48 AM »
Let's have some proof Laz, not just hearsay.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #922 on: December 18, 2007, 10:52:47 AM »
ok.. there are more polar bears now than ever... they are not dying out.

can you prove that there are less this year than last?  We can wait till next year and ask the same question if you like but...

your stupid computer models aren't "proof" of anything.  they are a guess.   A simplistic guess about a very complex interaction of a lot of poorly understood natural elements and their interactions that make up the climate.

the end does not justify the means.. we only have the means.   we have to go by what is really happening.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #923 on: December 18, 2007, 11:06:26 AM »
yet... nothing bad has happened..   the only bad things are far into the future... long after the whole thing has been proven to be a fraud.

The temperature has risen about a degree this century... about in line with other natural warming periods.. its been warmer.. its been colder... colder is worse for all living things.  

Truth is.. this warming period has been very very good for everyone.   you have to really stretch the old computer model to make it into a bad thing.

If carbon was really the objective.. if they really believed the hype.. they would put out the underground coal fires.. one fire in china for instance puts out more co2 than all the cars and light trucks in America.  

What they also don't tell you is that even by their models... they can't make the treaty math work.. the best they can do is spent dozens of trillions of dollars to...  to MAYBE under the best of their predictions.... help to reduce the worst case scenario doomsday rise in temp by... a couple of tenths of a degree by 2100.

in other words.. if we spend trillions and BIG if... IF they are right about everything (which they are not) then.. we can spend all this money to do just about nothing.

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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #924 on: December 18, 2007, 12:01:33 PM »
So another wild claim with absolutely no evidence to back it up. Not even the sagacious outpourings of H. Sterling Burnett and Mitchell K. Taylor, two more contrarians that "disprove" this particular concensus?

My stupid computer models?  Were you stamping your feet in frustration when you said that? Climatology isn't just GCMs - only the naive or idiotic believe that.
 
Oh, I forgot, it's all a scam so that scientists can amass enormous wealth in preparation for creating a technocratic world government in league with the Marxist United Nations.

You sound a lot like Alex Jones.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #925 on: December 18, 2007, 12:18:23 PM »
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And what is the probability of tomorrow, next week, next year and the next century?


I'll let you know the day after.
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #926 on: December 18, 2007, 12:19:25 PM »
Yet more repetitions of the same old untruths, factoids and distortions.

Do you know any more tunes?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #927 on: December 18, 2007, 12:24:00 PM »
computer models promised me lots of big hurricanes this year.  Dude, where's my hurricanes?

maybe next year huh?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #928 on: December 18, 2007, 12:25:43 PM »
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I'll let you know the day after.

You'll still be paying your insurance premiums though?
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Re: General Climate Discussion
« Reply #929 on: December 18, 2007, 04:02:51 PM »
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You'll still be paying your insurance premiums though?


I haven't paid an insurance premium in decades.

My wife pays em.
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