The Video Mrs Clinton doesnt want the world to see

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Do you need a copy of his testimony to point those lies out?

No. His testimony about being a participant in activity in "free fire zones" where civilians were supposedly massacred were shown to be false. He wasn't there. His testimony about the use of torture was false because he never held any prisoners to torture, and he was never put in charge of any prisoners. At least not on any records that anyone has been able to find.

Get yourself a copy and prove some of it true. I dare you. Go ahead and show us all ANY of his testimony that is supported by anything CLOSE to a majority of the men whose records (the ones Kerry won't release) prove beyond doubt that they were there and were part of the action.

Kerry himself ADMITTED that what he testified to were unverified RUMORS that he heard. Look it up.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Yes, his own men disputed several instances where Kerry claimed he was under enemy fire. The MAJORITY who came forward disputed his accounts. At least a couple of his claims, where HE put HIMSELF in for decorations, have been strongly disputed by men who were there. The MAJORITY of men who were there.

Don't lie, I asked you if you deny that enemy shot at him.  Every man that served with him has stated that they did in fact come under enemy fire.  They remember how it went down differently, but all admit it did happen.

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts

Bush, by the way, flew century series fighters, most REAL pilots will tell you that was the most dangerous series of fighters in the U.S. inventory since World War I. His unit WAS eligible to go to Vietnam, but was never selected to go.

Bush was AWOL.  He was not where he was supposed ot be.  He was and still is a coward out for nothing more than to further the riches of his families name!

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by SkyRock
He stated that his statements in the 'Winter Soldiers" part of the testimony were results of an investigation and taken from testimony of soldiers that were there.  So are you saying that soldiers did not admit to those types of atrocities?  Maybe you are saying those types of autrocities did not occur?

I'm saying he was NEVER a witness to or a participant in ANY of what he testified to. He admitted that. And SEVERAL of those "winter soldiers" were proven to have NEVER seen military service, never mind been in Vietnam. It's just the same as the crap that has been published recently, on a regular basis, by several media outlets. People who never made it through basic have claimed to have first hand knowledge of "atrocities" committed in Iraq, when they WASHED OUT OF BASIC and never went anywhere, except home, to whine.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts


Kerry himself ADMITTED that what he testified to were unverified RUMORS that he heard. Look it up.

Then why in the hell would you say they were lies because he wasn't there.  I've viewed his testimony, and the part you were talking about was clearly labled stories told to him by soldiers.

Regaurdless, do you deny that those types of autrocities happened?????????

[Dago]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Try to wake up before all your brain cells waste away.

Now there is the funniest single post I have ever seen on this board.  Head in the sand MT, do just a little homework on Hillary if you are not afraid of what you will find.

Anyone who would vote for her after everything that has been clearly and objectively documented about her is truely stupid or dense.

Or, it could just be you don't want to know, and won't risk learning.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
"atrocities" committed in Iraq,  

Are you saying there have been none committed in IRAQ????????????

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Don't lie, I asked you if you deny that enemy shot at him.  Every man that served with him has stated that they did in fact come under enemy fire.  The remember how it went down differently, but all admit it did happen.





 
Bush was AWOL.  He was not where he was supposed ot be.  He was and still is a coward out for nothing more than to further the riches of his families name!

No, every man that served with him has NOT testified he was under enemy fire. In fact, several have stated that he was not under enemy fire and was not hit by enemy fire for AT LEAST two of the three Purple Heart awards he put himself in for, knowing that he could apply to go home early if he got three. The doctor LAUGHED when he asked to have a sliver removed that was barely stuck in his skin, and then asked to have it recorded so he could put in for a Purple Heart.

Just go on swallowing the drivel you've been spoon fed. You aren't worth another minute of time better spent on just about any worthwhile effort. You don't even look things up for yourself.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Are you saying there have been none committed in IRAQ????????????

Look, READ CAREFULLY. People who have NEVER BEEN TO IRAQ are testifying to atrocities that NEVER HAPPENED, just like the "winter soldier" bull you keep quoting. Can you not read and comprehend? No one has said no atrocities were committed in Vietnam OR Iraq. What has been said repeatedly,  is that much of the "winter soldier" testimony was given by people who were never in Vietnam, and much of the media trumpeted accounts of atrocities in Iraq have been proven to be lies from people who have never been. Try reading what is written, rather than what you think it says.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
No, every man that served with him has NOT testified he was under enemy fire. In fact, several have stated that he was not under enemy fire  

Are you saying he was not under enemy fire at anytime he was over there?  I believe the majority of swiftboat vets that disputed his medals admitted that he was in fact fired upon, they just disputed whether he got hit or whether he deserved the medals.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Look, READ CAREFULLY. People who have NEVER BEEN TO IRAQ are testifying to atrocities that NEVER HAPPENED, just like the "winter soldier" bull you keep quoting. Can you not read and comprehend? No one has said no atrocities were committed in Vietnam OR Iraq. What has been said repeatedly,  is that much of the "winter soldier" testimony was given by people who were never in Vietnam, and much of the media trumpeted accounts of atrocities in Iraq have been proven to be lies from people who have never been. Try reading what is written, rather than what you think it says.

READ CAREFULLY!   DO YOU BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN NO AUTROCITIES COMMITTED IN IRAQ BY US SOLDIERS?

[SkyRock]

Do you agree with this type of behavior?  Do you think the IRAQi people that witnessed this thinks we are there to help them?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=m9A_vxIOB-I

[Speed55]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
No one has said no atrocities were committed in Vietnam OR Iraq.  

I read carefully..

I know there were some atrocities committed and documented in vietnam. And as of now, the only one that i know of committed in Iraq thus far, has been the case where some soldiers raped an Iraqi woman, and they are going to prison for a VERY long time.

But to keep bringing it up does our military a VERY big injustice. It happened, it's over with, it's done.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Speed55
I read carefully..

I know there were some atrocities committed and documented in vietnam. And as of now, the only one that i know of committed in Iraq thus far, has been the case where some soldiers raped an Iraqi woman, and they are going to prison for a VERY long time.

But to keep bringing it up does our military a VERY big injustice. It happened, it's over with, it's done.

Does killing passerby civillians and bragging about it count as an autrocity?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xnyjH5wusqs

[lazs2]

skyrock..  considering the circumstances... I think that even you will admit that our soldiers are acting in the most civilized manner that soldiers ever have.

as for Iraqis witnessing brutality... you are kidding right?  you think they can't compare what they were used to from the sad man to what is going on now?  to the brutality of their war with iran?  are you just dense?  Do you think they are stupid children?

lazs

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by lazs2
skyrock..  considering the circumstances... I think that even you will admit that our soldiers are acting in the most civilized manner that soldiers ever have.



lazs

Wrong is wrong, there is no compromise.   I can't stand to see our soldiers acting in that manner, it is not how I teach my children to be, and I do not believe it is what "we" as a country stand for.  

I find it disgusting that tards just do what they want to do over there and noone says anything about it.  
Granted, this is not how all the soldiers act, but it is still unnacceptable in my book.  Teasing kids with water and this one as well:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2GnXuo-jotE