He-162, a meteor or maybe a Me-262 A-2 Sturmvogel

[Shade_Empire09]

The only russian jet close to wwII that i like is the mig-9fs but that's 1946 or 1947 so after war. I would like a Pe-3 bis heavy fighter, light bomber or even a il-153 m-62 just to fly around like a maniac, but a freakin newb would light you up like a roman candle in that thing. I don't know. I like german jets, but we do need morre russian planes or maybe even like finnish or romanian planes, and we need a beaufighter!!!!!!!! It was just an idea about the german jets. We need that B-29, P-39, and maybe a rufe or seahawk seaplane. Also a P-61 and me-410 for the nightfighter rivalry. Seen on dogfights episode nightfighters

[Rich46yo]

The meteor didn't really see combat due to an act of policy then any other reason. If i remember right it certainly did see action as a ground attack airplane. It didn't see air to air combat due to an act of policy by the British military.

                     It would be a fun perk aircraft and I think does deserve to be included. But we deserve the B-29 long before because the B-29 had a very large participation in the war. Far in excess of anything either the Meteor or 262 did.

                   AND! We only have one perk bomber.

[Larry]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
But we deserve the B-29 long before because the B-29 had a very large participation in the war. Far in excess of anything either the Meteor or 262 did.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by Larry

                         Yeah I know. I shouldnt have mentioned the "B" word.

[Motherland]

One thing on this list I would like to see is the Me-262-A2, for the sake of R4M air to air rockets.

[moot]

Other planes more common than the 262A2 had them, IIRC.  Either the 190D9 or F8, maybe the A8 or A9 too.

[Motherland]

Originally posted by moot
Other planes more common than the 262A2 had them, IIRC.  Either the 190D9 or F8, maybe the A8 or A9 too.

Dont think the 262A1 did, though. Or at least, Ive never heard of the R4M mentioned with the 262A1.


Edit: from Wiki: "Only a small number of aircraft were fitted with the R4M, mostly Messerschmitt Me 262s and the ground attack version of the Fw 190s, which mounted them on small wooden racks under the wings."

My guess is that the PB1 rockets we have on the 190F8 are specialized R4M's.

[TUXC]

http://www.stormbirds.net/tech_r4m_rocket.htm


"They could be let off 1,100 meters away from the target - and from this range continued until they represented a field of fire of over 30m x 14m.  This meant that by releasing all his rockets at once against a close formation of bombers a pilot couldn't miss!"
Johannes Steinhoff

Sounds like you'd just salvo off all 24 of them at a formation from a safe distance, then get out of there before the escorts bounce you.

Edit:
I believe the Me262A-1a or A-1b was the one fitted with the rockets. Anyway, I think they just mounted the wooden racks on the wings of the standard fighter version of the 262.

[zorstorer]

Originally posted by Motherland
...Edit: from Wiki: "Only a small number of aircraft were fitted with the R4M, mostly Messerschmitt Me 262s and the ground attack version of the Fw 190s, which mounted them on small wooden racks under the wings."

My guess is that the PB1 rockets we have on the 190F8 are specialized R4M's.

Yep R4M's with a Panzerschreck warhead.  They can 1 shot kill a tiger in game

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Motherland
One thing on this list I would like to see is the Me-262-A2, for the sake of R4M air to air rockets.

Me-262A-2a Sturmvogel was the "Jabo" variant with two stores pylons under the forward fuselage for two 250 kilogram (550 pound) general-purpose or cluster bombs, and only had the upper pair of MK-108 30 millimeter cannon.  It didn't carry any A2A rockets.


ack-ack

[Stratocaster]

I would kill for an he-162... it would have to be perked higher than 262 though... a bit faster.

[Shade_Empire09]

My grandfather trained in the b-17g and weeks after that he and his buds got a b-29 the *black magic*, they had 45 missions on the plane and flew the day the enola gay dropped the atomic bomb. He lives about an hour from me I love to talk to him...but not when he beats us in poker and wins our money, old people know all the good tricks. I was talking to his tail gunner one day and he told me he shot down a ki-45, J2m3, a A6m5 zero, and a ki-102 randy. Most of his guys are still alive. I so want that B-29 but it needs a big perk price, so newbs dont try to pwn us veterans

[shamroc]

Originally posted by Larry

Number three is where the debate is. The meteor was used to shoot V1s down, but from Iv read they never shot any planes down. Some say that V1s dont count others say they do.
 

Meteors destroyed 46 confirmed enemy aircraft in Germany in 1944 - albeit via ground attack.

They were there, they did damage - and were shot at via German flak & allied aircraft (looked too much like a 262 for some people to tell the difference).

They were out looking to tangle with 262's - only they came so late that the Luftwaffe already had it's back broken.

IMHO they more than qualify for entry in AH.  Besides, I would prefer a "262" style jet with 4x20mm cannons - much better ballistics in terms of hitting targets.  16 wing mounted rockets would also be nice, albeit you'd be crazy to ground attack in AH with such costly beast.

Shamroc

[Larry]

From what Iv read the meteor never shot down an eveny aircraft in WW2. I really dont think killing planes on the ground would count.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Larry
From what Iv read the meteor never shot down an eveny aircraft in WW2. I really dont think killing planes on the ground would count.

C-47 never shot down any planes either.

Combat is combat.  Meteors saw cambat, that is beyond question.  So far as I know, AH does not have an air-to-air combat lithmus test, just a combat lithmus test, series production lithmus test and a squadron service lithmus test.  Meteor Mk III passes all of them.  One could argue fairly effectively that the Ta152 fails the squadron service test.

Whether they should be added to AH is another question entirely, as in, do we need more jets, really?