How do u recover from this?

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by crockett
Yea but what I was flying the Hurri 1 which doesn't have fuel injection, so the engine shuts off at negitive G's as bluekitty said. The P51 was the

Ahh you're absolutely right.  Hmmm this would be fun to play with offline, as you said.  

[SD67]

110 flat spin recovery

engines to idle
push forward on stick
apply opposite rudder to rotation
when rotation stops apply throttle, roll wings level and gently pull back as speed increases.
I've used this successfully in every instance of a flat spin in a 110 with sufficient altitude.
You will need around 1000ft of air under you to pull this off, depending on initial airspeed.
Another mob reckon kill the proceeding engine and go full on the remaining side, but it's never worked for me.
Key points to remember about stalls, they are a function of angle of attack, i.e. your nose gets too high relative to the airflow you are going to stall. You CAN stall at 500mph in a dive.

[stephen]

inverted stalls are diecy, your asking for a state of preperation I havent found in 7 years....so I say dont stall, ok later guys no more posting here for me

[ColKLink]

In a bad 110 flat spin, i chop throttles. or kill the motor, deploy flaps, turn into the spin, drop the landing gear (if nothing else works)  after I have sucessfuly diverted a flat spin into the deck at 200 mph,........ have a shot of whatever i brung, dispose of leather thong,call the sheep pen, make my order, and go home.

[TwentyFo]

Try recovering from a flat spin with one engine shot out/disabled. See what happens then?

[crockett]

SD67 and ColKLink what I'm talking about isn't really a spin. I just called it a flat spin because I know of no other name for it.

It's more like a flat stall , if you watch you the film I posted you will see what I'm talking about. There is no real spin involved so no sin recovery in needed.  (I'll just call it a flat stall because it better suits the situation)

The issue I was trying to resolve is how to get out of a inverted flat stall. In a right side up flat stall is pretty easy to recover assuming you have enough alt. It's just a matter of killing the engine and pulling back on the stick to get the nose to come around.

However inverted (upside down) flat stall from what others are saying it's just the opposite reaction. Meaning go full throttle and push the stick forward. (makes sense now that I think about it)

However the dilemma at hand is I was flying the Huri 1 which engine dies at negative G's. So the option of going full throttle is not there. So it leaves the only option of pushing the stick forward, unless others have a better idea.

I think I'm going to play around with it offline and see if it's possiable to get a Huri 1 out of it.

[Ghastly]

or is it a real case of there is no way out of a upside-down flat spin

Something like it can happen in real life too - except that the rate of fall seems to be a LOT higher than what seems to the case in game.  I wish I could find that video of an aircraft that went into a flat spin while dropping parachutists....

No way he was coming out of that - it was something like 2 rotations per thousand foot of drop and I'd guess something like 150 mph descent.

[crockett]

Well I just spent about 20 mins trying to recreate this stall and wasn't able to do it in the Huri 1.

The closest I was able to come was in a steep climb where I used my guns at the peak of the climb. (similar to what I did in the film). Using the guns seems to throw the plane off ballence at the top of the climb, but even then I couldn't get it in the flat inverted stall.


The plane seems to flip around a bit but always ended up self correcting itself and going naturally nose down pretty much pulling itself out of the stall.  I'll have to write it off as a fluke and wait to see if it ever happens again.

[NHawk]

Crockett, since the 110 is pretty much all I fly I know exactly what you're talking about. The plane comes to a complete halt without spinning and is flat dropping out of the sky.

Hopefully you're high enough to recover...

Chop throttle
Full flaps (sometimes this is all that is needed to go nose down)
If upside down pull back on stick
If right-side-up push forward on stick
Once you're nose down retract flaps and level out. That is if someone hasn't shot you down by this time.

If the above doesn't work on it's own add a little rudder and aileron to the same side and roll nose down (I'll usually roll right).

BTW..this happens when you reach 0 ground speed without using rudder or aileron. If you used either one you'd be in a flat spin not a flat stall. These are fairly easy to reproduce in real life, especially on a windy day flying downwind.