Questions

[Ack-Ack]

I solely use the P-38 for buff killing, it does it rather well.  Even without the 20mm, the Lightning is still a good bomber killer.


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[dedalos]

Originally posted by Karnak
You whine too much dedalos.  Not to mention make stuff up.

Stop whining about whiners

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I solely use the P-38 for buff killing, it does it rather well.  Even without the 20mm, the Lightning is still a good bomber killer.


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Well, after all you are using the P-38 solely for everything

While the nose mounted guns are quite suited to buff hunting, I always have the feeling the P38 is too big of a target to the buff gunners to get really comfortable with it. Of course, that could just be me - But the rare occasions I fly a 38, I actually try to stay away from buffs....

[Ack-Ack]

It's only a big target if you show the top or bottom of the plane.  Profile is smaller than some expect, in fact the profile is smaller than a lot of the fighters in this game.


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[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by Lusche
Well, after all you are using the P-38 solely for everything

While the nose mounted guns are quite suited to buff hunting, I always have the feeling the P38 is too big of a target to the buff gunners to get really comfortable with it. Of course, that could just be me - But the rare occasions I fly a 38, I actually try to stay away from buffs....

                             It is a big target. You have to be careful with it and not hang it up. However in the hands of someone who really knows it the 38 is a very good slasher. I forget who it was once but I got chewed up in my 26s by a P-38. Overall I do very well against it but in the right, or wrong, hands its a very capable buff killer.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
It's only a big target if you show the top or bottom of the plane.  Profile is smaller than some expect, in fact the profile is smaller than a lot of the fighters in this game.


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In other words: Because I fly it wrong. But I already suspected this

[Gianlupo]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
1, As a fighter stick what bomber/gun package would you consider to be the most dangerous to fly against? All other things being equal lets say.

As Holmes said, B-24s and B-26s. But what I fear the most actually is the aim of the guy behind the guns.

2, As a bomber stick, and with all else equal and not including the 262 or 163, what fighter/gun package would you consider to be the most dangerous to be coming at your bombers?

As fighter pilot, the best combo is 20/30 mm cannons. The 190A8 is great for buff hunting, the 110, too (even though I prefer flying single engined fighters); keep in mind, though, that any cannon armed fighter can do the job (I have killed many buffs in Ki-84)

3, Whats the most effective single thing can a bomber stick do to successfully defend against fighters?

Firing and hitting. As I said, the most deadly thing of bombers is the aim of the gunner. So, I guess, good SA and good aim are the keys.

4, What single thing can a fighter stick do to successfully attack bombers?

Again, I agree with Holmes. You have to carefully plan the approach and attack, NEVER rush it, and use high angles to make worse the gunner's job, high speed slashing attacks from above or below are the best (side attacks work fine, too, but are more difficult, at least to me )

5, Whats the biggest reason bomber sticks die against fighters?

Poor SA, poor aim. Well... being ganged, too, I guess!

6, Whats the biggest reason fighter sticks die against bombers?

Good gunner's aim, poorly planned attack (and, talking about me, I have to add: attack pushed even when it would be advisable to break it and set it up again.... no patience! )
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Bombrich, I think I never had the pleasure of meeting (shooting) you (down), looking forward to it!

[PanosGR]

5, Whats the biggest reason bomber sticks die against fighters?

The “red label” (icon). plus the distance info-cue. Remove all that from the enemy bombers and they will live longer.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by PanosGR
5, Whats the biggest reason bomber sticks die against fighters?

The “red label” (icon). plus the distance info-cue. Remove all that from the enemy bombers and they will live longer.

Get real life screen size & resolution, then you can take away the icons.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by Lusche
Get real life screen size & resolution, then you can take away the icons.

Really?  How will you know if they are friendly or enemy buffs?

[PanosGR]

Get real life screen size & resolution, then you can take away the icons.

On the contrary in real life they use labels. Look at the modern HUDs or the JHMCS.
I’m not saying remove the big label from all of the aircrafts. Only from the bombers that have the formation choice. The Green label –the friendly one- will be on, from 6k as is.
So what do you need the red one? The bomber formation that doesn’t present an icon will be the bad one. All I’m saying is by the absence of the red label there might be a good chance for the bombers to escape from the fighters instead of “invite” them by the big red -neon style- icon.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by PanosGR

So what do you need the red one? The bomber formation that doesn’t present an icon will be the bad one.  

I need the red label, because it presents me the information I could easily get in real life, but not AH due to aforementioned  issues.
The planes appear much smaller on screen and in a worse resolution. At distances you could easily identify plane types in real life, I see just a small blob of pixels. Also we do not have 3D stereosopic views, so any range / closure rate indication real life view would give you, has to be provided by icons.

Not pretty, but necessary.

[Karnak]

Without the icons AH would be simulating a pilot with vision so bad he would be legaly blind here in California and not allowed to have a license or drive.

You think that is an accurate simulation of a WWII fighter pilot's eyes?


The debate you should have is about what range icons should kick in and what data they should give at what range, not whether or not we should have them at all.

[PanosGR]

Also we do not have 3D stereosopic views, so any range / closure rate indication real life view would give you, has to be provided by icons.

true. i agree with u here


The debate you should have is about what range icons should kick in and what data they should give at what range, not whether or not we should have them at all.

In this case maybe is possible and for the bombers only the icons kick in stage to be reduced to 2 or 1k. I don’t know im just making a speculation here, in terms of increasing the bombers survivability

[Sloehand]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
1, As a fighter stick what bomber/gun package would you consider to be the most dangerous to fly against? All other things being equal lets say.

B-24 and B-17, and to a slightly less degree, the B-26. The Ki-67, Ju-88, and the rest, it's too easy to stay out of their guns field of fire.

2, As a bomber stick, and with all else equal and not including the 262 or 163, what fighter/gun package would you consider to be the most dangerous to be coming at your bombers?

Firepower only, Bf110 w/ 2-30mm/4-20mm, 190A-8 w/ 2-30mm/2-20mm.  
For speed getting to the buffs and in the attack with firepower, especially at alt, the TA-152 w/ 1-30mm/2-20mm.  
For the best mix of firepower, speed and manuveurability in the attack, the 109G-14 w/ 1-30mm+20mm gondolas, or for some reason to a slightly less degree, the 109K-4 with the single 30mm.
After that, anything with 4-20mm Hispanos, Typhie/Tempest and F4U-C


3, Whats the most effective single thing can a bomber stick do to successfully defend against fighters?

Alt is good, of course, but I'm assuming you mean defensive during an interceptor attack.  Keep up speed and always turn to keep the attacker on your 6.  Worry about position and angle for further bomb runs later.  
As fighter begins any kind of slashing side or forward quarter attack, adjust altitude and turn at approx. 1.2K-1.0K to throw off his calculated approach.


4, What single thing can a fighter stick do to successfully attack bombers?

Unless buff is on close approach to drop where you immediately attack the lead plane, BE PATIENT!  Work ahead and above the bombers by 2K minimum to allow for turn in, staying just 1K-1.5K away if passing parallel, to entice him to use up his ammo ineffectively.


5, Whats the biggest reason bomber sticks die against fighters?

Bad SA and not seeing interceptors approach.


6, Whats the biggest reason fighter sticks die against bombers?
Rushing in on the 6 o'clock


                            Thank you...and ........Rich