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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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« on: November 13, 2007, 03:27:39 AM »
But not in the shape and form you'd think:

United States Sucking up to RIAA demands. It seems that they're passing a law which will pull all federal funding from any university (AND students whether they committed p2p loading or not) that fails to comply with RIAA/MPAA demands on releasing p2p users information.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/bad-government/new-bill-would-deny-schools-funding-if-they-dont-comply-with-the-riaa-321541.php

This here, folks, is serious government level corruption when a private corporation is getting tailor made laws passed.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2007, 08:03:24 AM »
slow news day in the land of funny hats and frozen people?

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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2007, 10:09:34 AM »
Gee, and they wonder why no one wants to buy overpriced music.  

It's because consumers know this is what a portion of their money is being used for.

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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2007, 10:54:19 AM »
Where's Pavel?

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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 11:11:42 AM »
Oh boo hooo.

Sad how people get upset over being restricted from stealing, even more sad that relatively smart people can fool themselves into thinking its ok for reasons like "the music sucks, or they are ripping off the artist" as justification for said theft.


Music is not needed to live, you do not have a right to it for free. It not even important in the grand scheme of things, stop being a thief, and if you like it enough to download it pay for it, or if you dislike it enough you feel justified in steeling it, just give it up.

Theft of any kind is wrong.

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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2007, 11:23:18 AM »
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Oh boo hooo.

Sad how people get upset over being restricted from stealing, even more sad that relatively smart people can fool themselves into thinking its ok for reasons like "the music sucks, or they are ripping off the artist" as justification for said theft.


Music is not needed to live, you do not have a right to it for free. It not even important in the grand scheme of things, stop being a thief, and if you like it enough to download it pay for it, or if you dislike it enough you feel justified in steeling it, just give it up.

Theft of any kind is wrong.


I didn't see anyone say anything about downloading not being theft... was I looking at the wrong thread....  nope just checked, no one posted a thing abaut that.

I believe the topic on hand was how RIAA is stong arming the gov't into strong arming colleges to answer their very questionable legal grounded lawsuits.

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2007, 02:55:37 PM »
I bet it won't pass.

No need to worry :)

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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2007, 02:56:33 PM »
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I didn't see anyone say anything about downloading not being theft... was I looking at the wrong thread....  nope just checked, no one posted a thing abaut that.

I believe the topic on hand was how RIAA is stong arming the gov't into strong arming colleges to answer their very questionable legal grounded lawsuits.


Yes, and why exactly are they doing that? That's what I thought, you a theif as well?

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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 03:25:06 PM »
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you a theif as well?


Nope... I very rarely listen to music on the radio.  It's tuned into local sports talk/ESPN Radio.  About the only time I hear music now days is on a TV commercial, during the cut-outs to commercials on sporting events, in movies, or at church.  I don'thave a CD player in the car, it still has a cassette deck, and I havn't seen a cassette in nearly 12 years.  I couldn't tell you who was on the charts, who is still makign music, who has retired.  Hell I hadn't heard that Soulja Boy thing (I don't think it classifies as a song) until I went to a football game last month, and apparently it's been out forever.

Most music now days is crappy remakes of great music from decades ago, or unintelligible jibberish screamed into a microphone, or just sucks beyond description.

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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 03:29:24 PM »
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Nope... I very rarely listen to music on the radio.  It's tuned into local sports talk/ESPN Radio.  About the only time I hear music now days is on a TV commercial, during the cut-outs to commercials on sporting events, in movies, or at church.  I don'thave a CD player in the car, it still has a cassette deck, and I havn't seen a cassette in nearly 12 years.  I couldn't tell you who was on the charts, who is still makign music, who has retired.  Hell I hadn't heard that Soulja Boy thing (I don't think it classifies as a song) until I went to a football game last month, and apparently it's been out forever.

Most music now days is crappy remakes of great music from decades ago, or unintelligible jibberish screamed into a microphone, or just sucks beyond description.


I agree, thats why I do not buy any of it. Havn't bough an album in 5 years at least.  

I don't steal it either.

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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2007, 05:01:07 PM »
That's because there haven't been many good albums to buy in the last 5 years GTO.
Who are you to wave your finger?

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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2007, 05:24:35 PM »
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Oh boo hooo.

Sad how people get upset over being restricted from stealing, even more sad that relatively smart people can fool themselves into thinking its ok for reasons like "the music sucks, or they are ripping off the artist" as justification for said theft.


Music is not needed to live, you do not have a right to it for free. It not even important in the grand scheme of things, stop being a thief, and if you like it enough to download it pay for it, or if you dislike it enough you feel justified in steeling it, just give it up.

Theft of any kind is wrong.


Regardless if downloading music is legal or illegal. Don't you think it's a little much that a "special interest" group has the power to have "federal funds" pulled from colleges?

Do you not find that just a little bit too much power for a group whom caters to big business to have?
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2007, 05:33:46 PM »
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Regardless if downloading music is legal or illegal. Don't you think it's a little much that a "special interest" group has the power to have "federal funds" pulled from colleges?

Do you not find that just a little bit too much power for a group whom caters to big business to have?


Sure, I agree with that as well, but thats not why most of these guys are crying over it. We both know its because they fear losing their free music.


But yes I agree the feds passing laws like this for the RIAA is a bit much, they SHOULD just help them procecute the theives. ;)
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2007, 09:50:18 PM »
At this rate I might as well move to China :)

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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2007, 10:19:07 PM »
LOL..

Instead of worrying about a law that 'might' be passed,  you might want to focus a little closer to home.....

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7092413.stm

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Both men received a hefty 3,000-euro (£2,100) fine.  Their offence was to have published a cartoon last July making ribald fun of the heir to the Spanish throne, and of the government's scheme to encourage women to have more babies by giving mothers a special payment for each new birth.