Bunny Ranch for Ron Paul

[wrag]

Yep article says they picked him AFTER research.............

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312872,00.html

this is getting interesting:lol

[AWMac]

I thought Ron Paul supported the "Constitution" not "Prostitution".

I guess it's the "Pros" vs the "Cons"?



Mac

bsdaddict what's your take on this? Still pimpin Ron Paul?

And who said Politics and Sex make strange bedfellows?

"We'll return to the episode of Rockin the Vote at the Bunny Ranch after a quick word with our sponser..."   fades to Viva Viagra commercial



Mac

[wrag]

Originally posted by AWMac
I thought Ron Paul supported the "Constitution" not "Prostitution".

I guess it's the "Pros" vs the "Cons"?



Mac

bsdaddict what's your take on this?

Actually a Libertarian SUPPORTS Freedom, and Liberty, over pretty much anything else.

IMHO Ron Paul isn't for or against Prostitution, but he does SEEM for an adult to chose their own path through life without other people interfering.  So someone dealing in such a trade would have as many rights as anyone else.

So IIRC Ron Paul would end the war on drugs, probably make em legal. With the understanding that YOU, and I or anyone else, would have to deal with the consequences of our drug use, AND not the Government.

[Maverick]

Thats a nice concept but overly simplistic in execution. No matter what you do regarding drugs, society and the govt. both will end up having to deal with the consequences. There is no way that drug use will remain behind a closed door and not be out in the public, particularly on the roads as well as in other areas where it won't be making some kind of impact on the general populace.

I don't know what the "perfect" solution is or will be. I just know that it's pie in the sky to think everything will be just fine if all the legal restrictions are eliminated on drugs.

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by Maverick
Thats a nice concept but overly simplistic in execution. No matter what you do regarding drugs, society and the govt. both will end up having to deal with the consequences. There is no way that drug use will remain behind a closed door and not be out in the public, particularly on the roads as well as in other areas where it won't be making some kind of impact on the general populace.

I don't know what the "perfect" solution is or will be. I just know that it's pie in the sky to think everything will be just fine if all the legal restrictions are eliminated on drugs.

There is no perfect solution so question comes down to what is the least imperfect.  My bet is that a system is best that punishes for bad actions that affect others.  That is to say say... drinking...  not illegal... just taxed and taxes go towards prevention/treatment.  Driving drunk = jail time and a multiplier if you commit another crime while doing so.  The biggest problem I think the current system is it does little to deal with the real problem children while wasting resources on minor screw up like some 16 year old dealing pot.  The more the stuff is out in the open the better it can be controlled.

[wrag]

Originally posted by Maverick
Thats a nice concept but overly simplistic in execution. No matter what you do regarding drugs, society and the govt. both will end up having to deal with the consequences. There is no way that drug use will remain behind a closed door and not be out in the public, particularly on the roads as well as in other areas where it won't be making some kind of impact on the general populace.

I don't know what the "perfect" solution is or will be. I just know that it's pie in the sky to think everything will be just fine if all the legal restrictions are eliminated on drugs.

Not saying it is.

Saying IMHO drugs should be treated more like alcohol.

Prohibition DID NOT WORK.  IMHO neither is the war on drugs.

Some reading that may be of interest to all..............


"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"  by R. Heinlein

"Pallas" by L. Neil Smith

"The Probability Broach"  by L. Neil Smith


I found the political systems put forth in these books interesting.

The philosophy presented is of interest as well, at least to me it is.

Are any of these ideas gonna cure the ills of humanity?

Humans have the ability to find WAYS to do things.


"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato


Doubt it, not sure there is anything out there politically or philosophically that is a true cure all.

But some present partial solutions that DO NOT lead to Government Control of everyone!

"Many politicians lay it down as a self-evident proposition
that no people ought to be free until they are fit to use
their freedom. The maxim is worthy of the fool in the old
story who resolved not to go into the water until he had
learned to swim.", from Lord Macaulay an English historian.

[bsdaddict]

Originally posted by AWMac
bsdaddict what's your take on this? Still pimpin Ron Paul?

of course.  From a strictly libertarian standpoint what consenting adults do behind closed doors is noone's business, so long as noone gets hurt.  The bunnyranch guy is a libertarian too, so he's not necessarily endorsing RP only for his stance on the pro issue.  I'm sure he pays a lot of taxes, for one...  RPs message of freedom is appealing to everyone, even prostitutes and pimps...  

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
There is no perfect solution so question comes down to what is the least imperfect.  My bet is that a system is best that punishes for bad actions that affect others.  That is to say say... drinking...  not illegal... just taxed and taxes go towards prevention/treatment.  Driving drunk = jail time and a multiplier if you commit another crime while doing so.  The biggest problem I think the current system is it does little to deal with the real problem children while wasting resources on minor screw up like some 16 year old dealing pot.  The more the stuff is out in the open the better it can be controlled.

NO!  NO NO NO!  *Swats rabbid's nose like a bad dog*

No taxes at all!  Especially not for that.  It is not the government's duty to hold your hand, steal other people's money to try to fix YOUR problems.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by wrag


So IIRC Ron Paul would end the war on drugs, probably make em legal. With the understanding that YOU, and I or anyone else, would have to deal with the consequences of our drug use, AND not the Government.

Treat it as a disease like alcoholism instead of a crime.


ack-ack

[Motherland]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
NO!  NO NO NO!  *Swats rabbid's nose like a bad dog*

No taxes at all!  Especially not for that.  It is not the government's duty to hold your hand, steal other people's money to try to fix YOUR problems.

How is the government supposed to do anything with out a source of income?

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Motherland
How is the government supposed to do anything with out a source of income?

So much for the GWOT. And the infrastructure.

Just say no to extremism. Yay moderatism.

mod·er·ate  

3: professing or characterized by political or social beliefs that are not extreme

- Mirriam Webster

[Toad]

The less the government does the better off we'll be.

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help!"

Ba-WAh-hahahahahahahaha! That's a good one!

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Toad
"The less the government does the better off we'll be."

Quote from a Hurricane Katrina victim?

[VOR]

Originally posted by Arlo
Quote from a Hurricane Katrina victim?

Plausible.

[Toad]

Quote from just about anyone that has had to deal with the Federal Government.

Example: How they "simplify" the tax code.

you can order a complete set of Title 26 of the US Code of Federal Regulations (that's the part written by the IRS), all twenty volumes of it, at the bargain price of $974, shipping included.

According to the US Government Printing Office, it's 13,458 pages in total. The full text of Title 26 of the United States Code (the part written by Congress--available for an additional $179) is a mere 3,387 printed pages, bringing the adjusted gross page count to 16,845.