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Offline Tigeress

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« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2007, 05:36:14 PM »
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One has to really wonder about Al-Qaeda these days.   Our Presidential election is in full swing, with all the candidates mingling with the general public.   They are all extremely exposed at present.

Why is Al-Qaeda unable to make any assassination attempts on any of the candidates?  In fact, over six years have now gone by since 9/11, and no terrorist attacks of any kind have taken place here in our country.   Not by Al-Qaeda, or any other terror group.

If these people hate us so much and want to destroy us, then why have there been absolutely no attacks inside America?

One almost gets the impression that Al-Qaeda is off hiding from the US Military in some caves somewhere.

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Regardless of the, as it turns out, benign nature of its outcome, this will no doubt cast doubt as to the safety of the candidates and will probably cause the security measures to tighten even more.

Possible Homeland Security Conference on this hostage incident: "Lets wire tap everyone in NH and all neighboring states." We might catch someone doing something... anything... and this is a good excuse to do it. We need to earn our keep thus wiretap the crap out of the public."

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« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2007, 05:59:21 PM »
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Regardless of the, as it turns out, benign nature of its outcome, this will no doubt cast doubt as to the safety of the candidates and will probably cause the security measures to tighten even more.

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Reagan had far better protection as President in 1981 than any of the current candidates have now.   If there is another John Hinckley out there somewhere, nothing is going to stop them.  

BTW, all mental health experts now agree that Hinckley is free of mental illness, and should be released from Saint Elizabeth Hospital.   However, Federal Judges continue to block his release.

Should Hinckley finally be let out?  After all, he has been hospitalized for 25 years now.  He is now 52 years old.

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« Reply #62 on: November 30, 2007, 06:06:06 PM »
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Should Hinckley finally be let out?  After all, he has been hospitalized for 25 years now.  He is now 52 years old.


hinckley should have a bullet put into his brain, then you will know he is safe.

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« Reply #63 on: November 30, 2007, 06:07:24 PM »
what about sirhan sirhan?  should he be released as well?  I'm not sure if he's still living but supposing he were should he be released?

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« Reply #64 on: November 30, 2007, 06:19:58 PM »
Sirhan Sirhan, John Hinkley, and Charles Manson should all share the same jail cell... for life.

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« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2007, 06:23:02 PM »
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what about sirhan sirhan?  should he be released as well?  I'm not sure if he's still living but supposing he were should he be released?


That is  confusing Apples with Oranges.  Sirhan Sirhan was found guilty of 1st degree murder, and given a death sentence.  The death penalty law he was convicted under was overturned, which was how he got his sentence later reduced.

Hinckley was found to be not guilty of any crime at all, due to insanity.  He has been in a mental hospital ever since.

After shooting Reagan, Hinckley was baffled that actress Jodi Foster rejected his romance, as he claimed that he had given her "the greatest love offering of them all".

The current incident seems like it may have been done by a man as mentally ill as Hinckley was.  In fact, police are unsure of his real name.  It turns out that he has gone under a number of different names, and may even have multiple personalities.

I think that all Britney Spears fans need to now be placed under survelliance.   For if a Jodi Foster fan can become such a threat, just imagine what horrors a Britney Spears fan could do!!

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« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2007, 06:23:07 PM »
ok bare with me on this one.  just exactly who did manson kill, himself?  manson being inprisoned is a direct threat to all of us who value our freedom.  the guy who should be in jail is vincent bugliosi.

see if you can find the logic in that statement.

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« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2007, 06:24:14 PM »
Sirhan is up for parole every once in a while.

One of the last times he was before the board he said something like, "If Robert F Kennedy were here on the parole board, he would let me out."

Some comedian took that up and imagined a parole board member repling, "Of all the luck, the only man in the world who would let you out of prison, and you up and kill him."
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« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2007, 06:29:14 PM »
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That is  confusing Apples with Oranges.  Sirhan Sirhan was found guilty of 1st degree murder, and given a death sentence.  The death penalty law he was convicted under was overturned, which was how he got his sentence later reduced.

Hinckley was found to be not guilty of any crime at all, due to insanity.  He has been in a mental hospital ever since.

After shooting Reagan, Hinckley was baffled that actress Jodi Foster rejected his romance, as he claimed that he had given her "the greatest love offering of them all".

The current incident seems like it may have been done by a man as mentally ill as Hinckley was.  In fact, police are unsure of his real name.  It turns out that he has gone under a number of different names, and may even have multiple personalities.

I think that all Britney Spears fans need to now be placed under survelliance.   For if a Jodi Foster fan can become such a threat, just imagine what horrors a Britney Spears fan could do!!

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not at all sirhan sirhan was a whacked nutjob of the first magnitude.  the fact that he murdered a darling of liberals is why he was railroaded in the manner he was.  had he murdered you or I for instance he would have been found to be mentally incompetent.  he's incarcerated because of who killed and not because of the particular crime he commited.

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« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2007, 06:31:06 PM »
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Sirhan is up for parole every once in a while.

One of the last times he was before the board he said something like, "If Robert F Kennedy were here on the parole board, he would let me out."

Some comedian took that up and imagined a parole board member repling, "Of all the luck, the only man in the world who would let you out of prison, and you up and kill him."
that's funny

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« Reply #70 on: November 30, 2007, 06:33:57 PM »
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Sirhan Sirhan, John Hinkley, and Charles Manson should all share the same jail cell... for life.

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Neither Sirhan or Manson killed in order to convince a movie star actress to fall in love with them.

If only Jodi Foster had come out of the closet sooner, perhaps history could have been different.

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« Reply #71 on: November 30, 2007, 06:45:49 PM »
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not at all sirhan sirhan was a whacked nutjob of the first magnitude.  the fact that he murdered a darling of liberals is why he was railroaded in the manner he was.  had he murdered you or I for instance he would have been found to be mentally incompetent.  he's incarcerated because of who killed and not because of the particular crime he commited.


Your logic totally fails here, as Reagan was a sitting President, yet Hinckley was found innocent by reason of insanity.

Sirhan also had a valid motive to kill Kennedy, as he ( a Palestinian ) hated Kennedy for his strong support of Israel in the Six Day War.  An examination of his diary showed that he had been making notes about killing RFK for years.

Sirhan was able to hold a job, and was functioning OK within society.  In sharp contrast, Hinckley had been totally non-functional for some time, and had spent the last of the money that he had got from his parents, just before shooting Reagan.

Sorry, but your defense of Sirhan does not hold any water.

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« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2007, 06:55:11 PM »
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If only Jodi Foster had come out of the closet sooner, perhaps history could have been different.
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what, jodi foster walks on the other side of the street? Say it ain't so.

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« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2007, 07:00:31 PM »
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ok bare with me on this one.  just exactly who did manson kill, himself?  manson being inprisoned is a direct threat to all of us who value our freedom.  the guy who should be in jail is vincent bugliosi.

see if you can find the logic in that statement.


One does not have to be the person that pulls the trigger, in order to be found guilty of murder under the law.

If Charles Manson is one of your heroes, I hope that you explain that to everyone you meet.

My sister sadly dated a man once whose hero was Adolf Hitler, and unfortunately got pregnant from him.  And that was back before abortions were legal.   She married him, but the marriage turned out to be a nightmare, with him beating her regularly towards the end.  And back then, domestic abuse did not exist either, as far as the police were concerned.   My father's efforts to have him charged with a crime all failed.

If only she had known of his love of Hitler earlier, and had seriously taken into consideration all of the implications that had.

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« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2007, 07:22:35 PM »
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so I still don't get it.... all those people in there...

Why doesn't one of em just take out their gun and shoot the fruitcake?

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