The Sanity Gap: Democrats just alittle bit crazier

[Ripsnort]

I found this Gallup poll interesting, especially since the recent Hillary suicide bomber was first viewed as a politically motivated republican by a few folks on this board, and as it turned out, he was wanting to meeting with Hillary to discuss mental health, which tells me he had hope in Hillary.

The bottom line here is that democrats are crazier than republicans, either that or republicans are in denial.

A new Gallup poll finds that Republicans are the sanest people in America, or at least think they are:

Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls. Fifty-eight percent of Republicans report having excellent mental health, compared to 43% of independents and 38% of Democrats. . . .

While Democrats are slightly less likely to report excellent mental health than are independents, the big distinctions in these data are the differences between Republicans and everyone else.

What does this mean? "One could be quick to assume that these differences are based on the underlying demographic and socioeconomic patterns related to party identification in America today," Gallup says. But that doesn't fully explain the discrepancy:

An analysis of the relationship between party identification and self-reported excellent mental health within various categories of age, gender, church attendance, income, education, and other variables shows that the basic pattern persists regardless of these characteristics. In other words, party identification appears to have an independent effect on mental health even when each of these is controlled for.

Gallup provides a set of bar graphs breaking the data down by various factors, demonstrating this independent effect. For instance, people making over $50,000 are considerably likelier to describe their mental health as excellent--but so are Republicans when compared with non-Republicans in both income groups. The only major discrepancy we noted is that going to church seems to be correlated with better mental health only for Republicans.

Without longitudinal data, there is no way to know if the Republican-sanity correlation is enduring or a function of the present moment. It could be, for instance, that Democrats are in a fragile mental state after seven years out of power. Or it could be that people with mental difficulties are more vulnerable to peer pressure than healthier ones and thus have been more prone to leave the GOP because of the party's current unpopularity. In any case, the sanity gap is a fascinating phenomenon that merits further study.

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/102943/Republicans-Report-Much-Better-Mental-Health-Than-Others.aspx

[lazs2]

well.. think about it.. more democrats are women and we know who haunts the "self help" isles at the bookstore and goes to shrinks.

If they broke it down by gender it would be even more revealing.

lazs

[MORAY37]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
I found this Gallup poll interesting, especially since the recent Hillary suicide bomber was first viewed as a politically motivated republican by a few folks on this board, and as it turned out, he was wanting to meeting with Hillary to discuss mental health, which tells me he had hope in Hillary.

The bottom line here is that democrats are crazier than republicans, either that or republicans are in denial.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/102943/Republicans-Report-Much-Better-Mental-Health-Than-Others.aspx

The bottom line from a gallup poll is that th majority of americans are even more vain  than you..( for thinking there is any type of validity, scientifically,  to draw any sort of conclusion from a "self psychological exam".)

Another troll....

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by MORAY37
The bottom line from a gallup poll is that th majority of americans are even more vain  than you..( for thinking there is any type of validity, scientifically,  to draw any sort of conclusion from a "self psychological exam".)

Another troll....

You probably think that survey was about you. -- been to Nova Scotia lately?

[MORAY37]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
I found this Gallup poll interesting, especially since the recent Hillary suicide bomber was first viewed as a politically motivated republican by a few folks on this board, and as it turned out, he was wanting to meeting with Hillary to discuss mental health, which tells me he had hope in Hillary.

The bottom line here is that democrats are crazier than republicans, either that or republicans are in denial.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/102943/Republicans-Report-Much-Better-Mental-Health-Than-Others.aspx

Quote.
"Results are based on an aggregated sample of telephone interviews with 4,014 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted in November 2004, November 2005, November 2006, and November 2007. For results based on the total aggregated sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±2 percentage points. The margin of error for smaller subsamples reported in this analysis will be larger.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls."

Are you serious?  A sample size of... 4,014?  Statistically, there is no value to merit even the whimsiest of conclusions... and yet you swallow it down like the good little pornstar you are.

They sample, over 3 YEARS, a population the size of my local high school..and you take this to mean SOMETHING?  Just so you are aware...
4014 is roughly  .0000015 of the population of the United States (per last survey.)   I'll let you find, somewhere, what a viable sample size and population consists of.

This particular poll is off in time scale and in sample size.  It also has not disclosed it's sampling method, over telephone.  For instance, how were the numbers chosen and what was the geographical distribution of respondents.

Gallup polls are notoriously unreliable as methodology is always in question.  I thought you were a more capable thinker than that... but just swallow away.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by MORAY37
Gallup polls are notoriously unreliable as methodology is always in question.  I thought you were a more capable thinker than that... but just swallow away.

You are not saying that a measurement of consensus could be wrong are you?

[MORAY37]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
You probably think that survey was about you. -- been to Nova Scotia lately?

No, and no.  The troll just caught my eye.

[MORAY37]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
You are not saying that a measurement of consensus could be wrong are you?

4014 is not a consensus, sir.

[AKIron]

We've had amazing medical advances in the last hundred years but we have more mental illnesses and people inflicted with them than ever before. Drugs do little but pacify imo which is not the answer to most people's depression/anger/ADD/younameit problems. I didn't go to medical school but it doesn't take a doctor to see the solutions being provided by them aren't solving many problems. Temporarily alleviating symptoms perhaps but the long term effect may be a steep price.

[Holden McGroin]

Moray, my boy,

My GF is a biologist who tags fish.  She catches some, tags them and lets them go.  Later she catches some again and by the ratio of tagged to non tagged fish she estimates the total population.

Kind of like taking a phone poll and estimating what the total population of likely votors think.

How many scientists does it take to make a consensus?

And you don't have to call me sir, Holden will do.

[Tigeress]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
I found this Gallup poll interesting, especially since the recent Hillary suicide bomber was first viewed as a politically motivated republican by a few folks on this board, and as it turned out, he was wanting to meeting with Hillary to discuss mental health, which tells me he had hope in Hillary.

The bottom line here is that democrats are crazier than republicans, either that or republicans are in denial.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/102943/Republicans-Report-Much-Better-Mental-Health-Than-Others.aspx

Actually I expressed concern, in the event the bomber was a political  extremist, that it would damage the Republican Party.

Additionally, I am not a democrat.

Granted, I could have written it clearer with regards to my meaning.

Tigeress said, quote: "This kind of action is despicable and if politically motivated will reflect poorly on the Republican party power base."

People read into it whatever their individual paradigms projected.
Some of the reactions were humorous to observe!

TIGERESS

[MORAY37]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Moray, my boy,

My GF is a biologist who tags fish.  She catches some, tags them and lets them go.  Later she catches some again and by the ratio of tagged to non tagged fish she estimates the total population.

Kind of like taking a phone poll and estimating what the total population of likely votors think.

How many scientists does it take to make a consensus?

And you don't have to call me sir, Holden will do.

You need to, then, talk with her about elementary statistics.  That is not the same thing.  Also, her tag plots are only reliable in a stable fishery with limited mobility.....  IE a lake or other boundaried body.  She'll explain that to you.  I've used the same methods in manatee population counts in Florida....plots which fall apart when the manatees redistribute for mating.

[MORAY37]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Moray, my boy,

My GF is a biologist who tags fish.  She catches some, tags them and lets them go.  Later she catches some again and by the ratio of tagged to non tagged fish she estimates the total population.

Kind of like taking a phone poll and estimating what the total population of likely votors think.

How many scientists does it take to make a consensus?

And you don't have to call me sir, Holden will do.

Estimating a total population versus inferring statistical references within a population from such a small sample... totally different.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by MORAY37
I've used the same methods in manatee population counts in Florida....plots which fall apart when the manatees redistribute for mating.

So the country's voting statistics are based on sexual habits?  I do the wrong woman and I end up a communist?

[ROC]

You'd have to be crazy to believe a poll.

I'm a Republican.

I don't believe that poll.

Thus, validating the poll.

My brain hurts.