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« Reply #90 on: December 06, 2007, 05:22:14 AM »
Dear Shuffler Cypher Yeager,

While I don't think Bush is the leader Ronald Reagan was... we have had worse presidents... Carter for example, in my opinion.

Many here have an understanding of my political position... some don't.

I am a moderate; just to the right of center. I voted for Bush twice and his father, twice.

Don't assume I am picking on or supporting Bush or that I think he a good or bad president... necessarily.

To ask questions as to what is going on is not picking on someone... necessarily.

Let’s get to the bottom of this and see what's what.

We The People need to keep an eye on government, specifically the particular politicians and their advisors and their subsequent string pullers who are in power; not be spoon fed into believing everything we are told to believe because it suits a particular politician's, or a particular political party's (left or right), agenda.

I view all politicians with reasonable skepticism… left/right/up/down/and in between.

Bottom line... this is about We The People... not We The Government. People in government are paid servants of the Amercian public and their interests.

If a man or woman who is president can not take heat from We The People then they are in the wrong job.

Ideally, the media is the non-partisan watch dog of government for the American public; not political washing machines on permanent political spin cycle to the left or right.

So... I have to further guard what I hear and see and read with that in mind.

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« Reply #91 on: December 06, 2007, 05:24:28 AM »
Bush is an idiot!
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« Reply #92 on: December 06, 2007, 05:30:02 AM »
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so to the lefties, this intel report is creditable even after similar intel reports about wmds in Iraq seemed to be not so accurate & have given them a political battlecry ( imo they were moved or buried) ... who would have thunk it...


as stated, Iran will never have to use a missile to deliver a nuke attack as they have two legged cheekbones morons who are dying for the "honor" to be the one to set off the first one.
to cripple the US and her allies, ie the financial markets, nothing larger than a half arse dirty bomb detonations in a couple of the right cities is needed. think that requires a full blown Iranian "Nuclear Weapons program"?

Don't worry lefties, Obama and/or Billary will fix everything ... LOL


I don't believe the report either. I just think that Iran will be very careful distributing nuclear materials either underhanded or overhanded to the terrorist. They may hate us and talk alot. But basically they don't want no problems. Not much to be gained by them by that. They know what they'd awaken. Now Japan you may say could have said the same thing or Hitler. But Japan was in the throes of wanting to expand and feeling like they deserved it and then the oil issues and inflated sense of oriental spiritualism. Hitler was just crazy. Now the people in Iran today, well hindsight is 20/20. But even though they're president may seem a little off i think a lot of people behind the scenes in Iran would reject doing such things. It's not smart business, and a large majority knows this.

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« Reply #93 on: December 06, 2007, 05:51:22 AM »
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I don't believe the report either. I just think that Iran will be very careful distributing nuclear materials either underhanded or overhanded to the terrorist. They may hate us and talk alot. But basically they don't want no problems. Not much to be gained by them by that. They know what they'd awaken. Now Japan you may say could have said the same thing or Hitler. But Japan was in the throes of wanting to expand and feeling like they deserved it and then the oil issues and inflated sense of oriental spiritualism. Hitler was just crazy. Now the people in Iran today, well hindsight is 20/20. But even though they're president may seem a little off i think a lot of people behind the scenes in Iran would reject doing such things. It's not smart business, and a large majority knows this.


I suspect Iran was told by Saudi Arabia to cool it with the nuke weapons because they well understand the US, GB, and Israel will not let it stand and would blow the facilities to kingdom come and show Iran to the world as a threat to humanity.  

That just apparently happened in Syria very recently; Israel bombed an apparent Syrian budding nuke weapons facility to bits.

I think Saudi Arabia, though not our "friend", is fairly sane; not run by a gaggle of whackos like Iran and Syria and Venezuela, imv.

I also suspect Saudi Arabia wants the price of oil to drop for a lot of reasons and as long as a near war looms closer between the US and Iran it threatens Saudi Arabia’s long-term goals with respect to oil revenues and oil field security.

The US could bomb any middle-eastern oil field to a stand still in a matter of days.

The price of oil needs to drop now. I see this whole thing as a pressure release in action.

From what I am seeing, the rise in the price of oil is due to market speculation on the market's perceived degree of likelihood that supplies will be disrupted by hostilities in the region.

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« Reply #94 on: December 06, 2007, 06:28:40 AM »
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What irks me is we're supposed to believe that they stopped enrichment in Iran almost 5 years ago... and Bush says he found out about it Tuesday?


The man is a moron, and there's still 27% of you that think he isn't.  I wonder why all of his business ventures ended in complete failures.
They NEVER stopped enriching uranium, --they're doing it right now. They are credited with stopping research in 2003, after 15 years, (although in July we DIDNT think that;)) which could have used said enriched uranium to make a bomb. They are using the cover of 'peaceful purposes' as pretense for the 3000 centrifuges. (I have no idea of their oil/gas reserves....they COULD be taking the long view...getting nuclear power ready to go sooner rather than later...?) Would LOVE to know what the 180 degree change in the assessment is based on...maybe someone will leak it, as all OTHER important documents seem to be, eventually
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« Reply #95 on: December 06, 2007, 07:00:05 AM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
so to the lefties, this intel report is creditable even after similar intel reports about wmds in Iraq seemed to be not so accurate & have given them a political battlecry ( imo they were moved or buried) ... who would have thunk it...


as stated, Iran will never have to use a missile to deliver a nuke attack as they have two legged cheekbones morons who are dying for the "honor" to be the one to set off the first one.
to cripple the US and her allies, ie the financial markets, nothing larger than a half arse dirty bomb detonations in a couple of the right cities is needed. think that requires a full blown Iranian "Nuclear Weapons program"?

Don't worry lefties, Obama and/or Billary will fix everything ... LOL


I think the men in power in Iran would love to have the prestige of having a nuclear strike force at their command. It's like having the ultimate guy toy. They want to dominate the world for Islam and have said so many times. Know what? I believe them. :O  

But they don't have it and the combined forces of Great Britain, Israel, France, Germany, India, and the US are never going to let them have it for justified reasons by anyone's measure.

Starting a war to take something away they don’t have makes no sense and would make the US look like it's run by a bunch of fascist-minded rookies.

Iran will have to open up for inspections for the world to be assured no weapons are being developed in the future.

Know what? I blame Bill Clinton for a lot of the mess we are in with Iraq.
On his watch, Bill let Iraq get away with permanently kicking out the WMD inspectors which lead to the belief that Iraq had WMDs which lead to justifying invading Iraq.

Work with them, manage them, control them to the extent necessary; don't shoot ourselves in the foot because we don't like them and would love nothing more than to nuke them into oblivion because of 911.

Although Iran is an exporter of crude oil, they don't have much of a refinement capacity...

I recently read Iran's own oil refinement capacity is around 180,000 barrels a day... not much for a populous nation of 65.4 million people as of July, 2007.

Iran has serious pollution problems from burning fossil fuels and their oil industry's pollution, according to the CIA's World Fact Book website --> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ir.html
 
Iran needs energy as a nation and using nuclear energy allows them to have abundant clean energy to fulfill their nation's energy needs... and again its a prestige thing in my view... they are guys with accompanying male pride and they want the big boy's toys.

Iran having nuclear power plants also makes them more vulnerable in the event of an attack on them... think about it.

However, they have to play by the world's rules if they are going to have nuclear power for bona fide peaceful purposes. The world would be foolish to take their word for it without inspections/regulations in view of their stated world domination ambitions.

TIGERESS

Edit: BTW, anyone remember what they were paying for a gallon of gasoline prior to 911?

I do... it was about 95 cents a gallon.
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« Reply #96 on: December 06, 2007, 08:41:49 AM »
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I think the men in power in Iran would love to have the prestige of having a nuclear strike force at their command. It's like having the ultimate guy toy. They want to dominate the world for Islam and have said so many times. Know what? I believe them. :O  

~snip~

However, they have to play by the world's rules if they are going to have nuclear power for bona fide peaceful purposes. The world would be foolish to take their word for it without inspections/regulations in view of their stated world domination ambitions.

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Since when have Iranian officials stated ambitions for world domination?
Just look at what's going on now, they have far more to fear of us invading them than we do of them.
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« Reply #97 on: December 06, 2007, 08:53:44 AM »
So the NIE goes to the President in August, but he isn't told anything specific, AND he doesn't ask?  :aok


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« Reply #98 on: December 06, 2007, 09:07:23 AM »
they have far more to fear of us invading them than we do of them.
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Invasion is not the scenario most thinking people are worried about.  Nuclear proliferation is the threat.  The kind of nuclear proliferation that escapes the boundry of nations and is passed on, either by design or fault, to terror organizations.  At least thats my take on the situation.
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« Reply #99 on: December 06, 2007, 09:08:36 AM »
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Since when have Iranian officials stated ambitions for world domination?
Just look at what's going on now, they have far more to fear of us invading them than we do of them.


Iran is a strict Islamic Theocracy.



THE GOAL OF JIHAD IS WORLD DOMINATION --> http://www.scribd.com/doc/505609/THE-GOAL-OF-JIHAD-IS-WORLD-DOMINATION



That is whole the point of the Hydra thread --> http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=217926&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

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« Reply #100 on: December 06, 2007, 01:33:31 PM »
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bush only knows what the CIA tells him


The CIA didn't inform him God did...

"I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
                                                                   - George W. Bush, June, 2003
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« Reply #101 on: December 06, 2007, 01:56:58 PM »
Like my sig says, man, Pinky-Vision.
Ron White says you can't fix stupid. I beg to differ. Stupid will usually sort itself out, it's just a matter of making sure you're not close enough to become collateral damage.

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« Reply #102 on: December 06, 2007, 02:29:54 PM »
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The CIA didn't inform him God did...

"I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
                                                                   - George W. Bush, June, 2003
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml


OH MY WORD!

If Bush is hearing "voices" it means he is not Ok.

Auditory hallucinations are the key signs of schizophrenia.

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« Reply #103 on: December 06, 2007, 07:53:02 PM »
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OH MY WORD!

If Bush is hearing "voices" it means he is not Ok.

Auditory hallucinations are the key signs of schizophrenia.

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And you would believe Palestinians, saying he told them that? On top of that its being reported by the BBC. :noid
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« Reply #104 on: December 06, 2007, 10:27:16 PM »
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The CIA didn't inform him God did...

"I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
                                                                   - George W. Bush, June, 2003
Source:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml


Oh my God please tell me he DID not say that. Thats gotta be a false quote, no body in a position of power can be that stupid..please. It's ok to believe in God but when you go around doing stuff on that principle alone i have questions about that person. I guess that means God is on somebody's side right? He likes us Americans more. George let God guide you, but make your decisions on sound information. From his track record we see he does not do that.

Some of you people voted on this man a SECOND time .........? :huh

He reminds me of a religious story i've heard a number of times......

A man is in a flood, and the water is rising, he leaves his house and climbs on his roof. Later a man in a raft comes by and says "jump on i'll take you to safety".  The man says "thats alright my lord will save me". A little later a man comes by in a boat saying 'the waters getting higher you better jump on". Once again the man says "thats alright my lord will save me". now the water is up to his neck and a helicopter throws down a ladder. "Sir please grab hold this is it were're the last flight out". Once again the man says "My lord and savior will save me"....... The man dies and when he confronts God in heaven he says. "My lord i thought you would save me"? And God says......."What are you doing here, i sent two boats and a helicopter"?  

And this man WAS George W. Bush. So George believe in God, but remember the lord works in mysterious ways, and sometimes not so mysterious ways.

Don't base your presidential decisions on that.

..........IDIOT.... :huh :aok