Okinawa Frame 2 Scores

[Nefarious]

US Marines stormed onto Okinawa in some of the fiercest fighting ever seen in the Pacific while in the air, Japanese Bombers targeted the Ships that made up the Allied Armada while Allied Attack Aircraft destroyed forward airfields on Northern Okinawa.

The numbers first tell us that the Allies were more than 30 pilots in the advantage. Only one Allied Squad was over there high number of pilots, which means the turnout for the Axis was extremely poor, with three squads below minimum numbers, and more squads on there set minimum.

Kind of strange that we should see such a drop from Frame 1 to Frame 2. But as we enter the Holidays it may continue to drop. Only thing I can say is tell your squad mates and try to gather up as many as you are allowed and join us next week for the third and final frame.

Here are the scores...

ALLIED

• 71 Single Engine Aircraft x 5 = 355
• 64 Ki-67 Bombers x 10 = 640
• 15 Hangars x 40 = 600
• Frame Score = 1595
  
• Total Score = 2805
  

AXIS

• 75 Single Engine Aircraft x 5 = 375
• Task Force 1 = 2 Destroyers, 1 Cruiser Sunk= 200
• Task Force 2 = 0 Ships Sunk
• Task Force 38 = 2 Destroyers Sunk = 100
• Frame Score = 675
  
• Total Score = 1600
  

Once again, the number of Ki67s destroyed tips the scales big time for the Allies. I was surprised to see the numbers of Peggy Kills rise from the staggering numbers last week. I thought maybe we would see the Axis try a  different method of getting at the ships. Looking at the numbers of Ki67s used, More than half were destroyed.

I am finalizing the Orders for Frame 3. They will be sent to:

Allied: 347th Fighter Wing - 68Falcon - 16-21
Axis : 364th C-HAWKS FG - SpiveyCH - 16-21

[Husky01]

Wtg Allies nice job and congratulations! Axis you did a good job as well. I tell ya what CiCing is a way different world from leading a scenario thats for sure, I think Im gonna take a lot out of this one and I really look forward to CiCing again in the future.

[Kermit de frog]

Husky, your fellers at A30 really hurt our airfield.  We got to your bombers in time to screw with them.  You might want to remember your tactics and not repeat your mistakes in the future.

[Husky01]

From what I heard someone up by 30 got ownt by some TBMs and had to ditch their niki I believe hehe

[Kermit de frog]

shhh....

[Kurt]

Originally posted by Nefarious
I thought maybe we would see the Axis try a  different method of getting at the ships.

The Cic Axis was a first timer in that role, so I think it was a learning experience for them.  My only complaint was that the CiC Axis squad was not even in the arena toward the end, so there was no Axis command and control at all.

I think that can also be written off as a rookie thing - I am not bad mouthing here, but I do think its important that the CIC stay in the scenario till the end regardless, its just good management.  And I hope that my comment can be taken in that context so that in the future, this CIC and perhaps others will stick around and command their fights.

Perhaps everyone needs the reminder that being the CIC does not end when the wheels retract.  It ends only after every man is back on the ground (regardless of how he gets there, or the status of his vital organs).

[Bannor]

Well done allies, !

As what was left of my squad arrived at A13 to re-arm our Ki67s, a few allied planes managed to come in and disrupt my landing, so I flew low over the runway under the ack umbrella. That took care of me and I believe the ack did it's job, but not before killing or damaging what was left of my squad. I was able to re-arm and head back out with my lone Ki ( the other two were on the runway). I made it back to the CV and was able to drop on it, but only for 2 gun emplacements. We totally missed from High alt on the first run. I died immedietly and found myself back on the runway in a very badly damaged, vulched plane, and the other one gone.
 I too would like to see something done about drones left behind. It's not really fair in my opinion to attack drones on the runway, especially on a field that wasn't even a target. That is the main reason I chose that particular field because it wasn't a target. Now if the field was on the list of targets, then I can see where there could be collateral damage because hey, planes live at airfields and are valid targets. But a situation like what happened seems a bit unsporting. The only defense I have here is to either take a single w/o formation or forget about the re-arm and land all my planes.
Just my 2 cents. I did have fun and I look forward to next week.

All

[Saxman]

Of course on the other hand, I was watching Ki-67s dive+bombing our CVs, leaving their drones about D4-6k behind and not one of them popped  as a result, even though this should have been far beyond the length of the leash.

[TUXC]

The drones on the runway may be due to friendly fire. My squad had bombers one FSO a few months ago, and the ones that were left on the runway ended up shooting each other when the lead ship fired at enemy fighters from a few sectors away. We thought they'd been vulched at first too except that they were left at a field that was pretty out of the way.

[Squire]

There isnt really any way to stop strafing runs on a/c in FSOs. Its not enforceable. The onus is going to be on CiCs and pilots to make sure they rearm at a base thats not going to be hit. Sometimes war is hell .

Otherwise, the CMs have an impossible task trying to figure out if an a/c was "legally" strafed at a "target" base or not, and the logs wont show that. Ground damage is easy, targets bombed or strafed at a non- target base, simply wont be counted in the score (cuz it shows in the CMs logs),  but a parked a/c? it wont show what base it was hit at.

It is too bad about drones, on second runs, I would add that to a "wishlist" that upon a "refuel", you get back any drones that were not shot down, but thats a game issue with AH.

[Nefarious]

The CM staff is looking into the Destroyed Drones.  Thanks, Nef.

[splitatom]

sorry that the 55 didnt fly we didnt know our orders or anything and i was the only one so i dicided not to fly

[Nefarious]

Originally posted by splitatom
sorry that the 55 didnt fly we didnt know our orders or anything and i was the only one so i dicided not to fly

Did you not try to contact the CIC or the CMs about the orders?

[4XTCH]

 

Originally posted by Kurt
 My only complaint was that the CiC Axis squad was not even in the arena toward the end, so there was no Axis command and control at all.
Perhaps everyone needs the reminder that being the CIC does not end when the wheels retract.  It ends only after every man is back on the ground (regardless of how he gets there, or the status of his vital organs).

ABSOLUTELY! Althought RL can get in the way and that should always take precedence, the Cic's should try to remain in the SEA to direct should they expire. GL's that go down to enemy fire that have to leave should appoint someone to take charge.
In the case of our own squad, someone is always appointed to lead the rest of us to the end of the frame
Good points Kurt and well said IMHO


4XTCH

[AKKaz]

The drones being left behind on the runway after rearm has always been there.  This was mentioned about a year and half ago during a european scenerio when some of ours were left behind.  Even though nobody got to them to strafe them, but the possibility did exist.

Not sure about now, but it was also possible after leaving them behind after rearm that if you got shot down on your second run, you could eject from that plane and go to one of your others sitting on the runway and taxi to the rearm/ takeoff and go again.  Or if you don't think your going to make it home intime for the end of frame, then just bail and instantly your on your runway to end flight.  But not sure of the point diff from losing the plane to not making it home.  If its the same, then its push/pull.

If this is still true, then those planes left behind become an active asset that still can be of some value.  If they become null and void after rearm, then when one gets shot down on their second run, they should not be able to eject to another sitting there.

As always, just my opinion.