Author Topic: i need help finding a plane (Read 1170 times)

DEAR98 · « **on:** December 09, 2007, 10:05:16 AM »

ok i got it down to FW190 P-51s P-40
and if you can please help to get me better at like some tips

waystin2 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 09, 2007, 10:41:30 AM »

Here are a few suggestions on planes for new pilots from the netaces.org site:

Spitfire Mk VIII<-------------Great First Ride!

N1K2-J

P-51D Mustang

In the end, fly what makes you happy, but be prepared to train up and study on your decided ride.

Oink

DEAR98 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 09, 2007, 10:51:01 AM »

ok that good

Rogue9Volt · « **Reply #3 on:** December 09, 2007, 11:25:42 AM »

FW190 d9, great for BnZ.

RTR · « **Reply #4 on:** December 09, 2007, 11:25:58 AM »

Dear98 any of the Spitfires are good first rides. Except the SpitIVX, it is a monster but requires a good hand to get the most out of it.

I wouldn't recommend the N1K2 for the simple reason that it has a pretty potent gun package and seems to breed the need to HO.

In my experience with helping people here, the SpitV and IX provide great handling characteristics, are fairly forgiving and will get you a few kills. They allow you to explore your inner "killer" and give you a bit of time to get a grip on some basic ACM.

Just my humble opinion mind you.

cheers,
RTR

Spikes · « **Reply #5 on:** December 09, 2007, 11:38:28 AM »

P-40 can outturn spits if you know how to fly it.

Latrobe · « **Reply #6 on:** December 09, 2007, 03:10:23 PM »

190's: I've learned that if you get them slow, you better know what you're doing. Keep it fast, but please don't turn it into a BnZer for I will hunt you down

. 190, IMO, is an E fighter.

P-51: Defenitly an E fighter, but can turn fight if needed (with a notch of flaps if needed too do so). P-51 love speed and, sometimes, even turn with a spitfire when at high speeds. If you see a "Braunco Mustang" on, ask them for advice on the P-51.

P-40: Truely an excellent plane. It's not the fastest, not the best turner, can't outrun much, not the best at getting it's speed up, but it's only plane that I canthink of that balances everything so nicley. Good firepower, good top speed, good turner (both high and low speeds), just a great dogfighter. It's also the one out of the three that requires the most practice in, mainly because everyone goes after the P-40 first.

WMLute · « **Reply #7 on:** December 09, 2007, 04:27:58 PM »

I think a good question to ask would be: "how do you intend to fight?"

Fighting style somewhat dictates the plane. Do you tend to be low on the deck turning and buring knife fighting? Well then I would say a P51 would be a bad choice.

Are you generally above everybody else and diving down shooting at them and climbing back up? I would say a P40 would be a bad choice.

In the middle there somewhere?

Not sure?

Next time you fly AH pay attention to HOW you tend to fight, and they come back here and tell us. Some planes are better for certain fighting styles than others.

angelsandair · « **Reply #8 on:** December 09, 2007, 07:18:09 PM »

spitVIII is a really great plane for starters, La-7 good for starters but you need to know what you are doing when you are flying 1 of those
I wouldnt reccomend a n1k2-j mainly because they are really horrible in dives and its really hard to pull out of 1, p-38j is also a good starting fighter if you know how to use it too

splitatom · « **Reply #9 on:** December 09, 2007, 09:32:45 PM »

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Originally posted by waystin2
Spitfire Mk VIII<-------------Great First Ride!

that is the best spitfire in the game i think it is also one of the best turners and fastest spit it is the only spit i use from land bases i sometinmes use the carier one and i dont usualy use spits that often exept this weekend:aok

splitatom · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2007, 09:36:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Latrobe
P-40: Truely an excellent plane. It's not the fastest, not the best turner, can't outrun much, not the best at getting it's speed up, but it's only plane that I canthink of that balances everything so nicley. Good firepower, good top speed, good turner (both high and low speeds), just a great dogfighter. It's also the one out of the three that requires the most practice in, mainly because everyone goes after the P-40 first.

the reson people go after you is becuase you are considered an easy kill i shot down 5 once all of them saw me and they all died

WMLute · « **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2007, 09:58:46 PM »

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Originally posted by angelsandair
spitVIII is a really great plane for starters, La-7 good for starters but you need to know what you are doing when you are flying 1 of those
I wouldnt reccomend a n1k2-j mainly because they are really horrible in dives and its really hard to pull out of 1, p-38j is also a good starting fighter if you know how to use it too

Niki's?

Horrible in DIVES?

Huh?

They dont' compress untill ya' hit the high 400's if not 500 kias.

Niki's are fantastic in the dive.

dkff49 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 09, 2007, 10:34:43 PM »

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Originally posted by WMLute
Niki's?

Horrible in DIVES?

Huh?

They dont' compress untill ya' hit the high 400's if not 500 kias.

Niki's are fantastic in the dive.

yes they do not compress quickly but are very tough to pull out of dive when your speed gets over 350. very important to remember to chop throttle when entering a dive in NIK or find yourself augering

but i find the NIK to be a great plane to learn to fight in because i love the turn fighting and challenge of suckering in the BnZ figthers into my fight

IMHO

kotrenin · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2007, 10:36:34 PM »

I've been flying the Spit VIII and Spit IX for the last 3 months or so. I have found them both to be great all around fighters. Not the greatest in any 1 skill but you can reasonably expect these planes to meet your needs in a pinch. They are light and want to climb, I feel like I am flying a kite when I up these planes. I can float them to their stall limit in the vertical, while other planes want to stall out and have to dive away quickly before they lose lift, I can "float" at the top and wait for them. I have routinely had these planes in turn fights under 120 IAS with flaps out and managed to draw the fight UP in altitude causing my prey to lose valuable "E" compared to me. I can B and Z in these planes, though I have to throttle back some depending how deep my dive needs to be. They have nice speed although they are no where near the fastest.

Any plane you choose must be learned. You will have to spend a lot of time practicing in your plane to get a feel for what it can do. You must also decide what style of fighting you like. This is another reason to fly the Spit, Because it can do just about everything good, you can use it to decide what type of fighter you are and then point yourself towards a plane that is geared more for that style of fighting.

humble · « **Reply #14 on:** December 09, 2007, 11:40:55 PM »

Spending some time in the TA is more important then the specific plane you choose. A little training early goes a long long way. Personally I'd stay away from hurricanes, spitties, zekes and nikki's as well as the "speed" planes. Yes you might land a few more kills but in the long run you'll be better served by learning the use of flap, rudder and throttle early on. The F6F, 109F4, C-205 & Ki-61 are all great rides to cut your teeth on. They require a bit of knowledge so you need a bit of time in the TA with them...