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Offline crockett

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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2007, 03:53:40 PM »
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More like he simply stayed out of the way while Newt and the Republican controled House and Senate get the country back on track economically. He just took the credit for it.


You seriously have to be kidding. So who's fault is it the country has become so screwed up under Bush? Is it also the fault of the Republican controlled House and Senate?

You damn sure can't blame that on the Democrats as they haven't had control long enough.

The difference is Clinton didn't cave to the threats of shutting down the govt. He let them do it and made them come up with a budget that worked.

Maybe you need a little history lesson..
http://www.cnn.com/US/9512/budget/budget_battle/index.html

The budget was fixed because Bill Clinton didn't give in to the Republican scare tactics. He made them come up with something that worked.
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2007, 04:20:30 PM »
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With most of the american people able to have access to the internet, I've often wondered if we'd ever switch over to a direct democracy, or if it would be worth it to change at all.


What we have now and what it was suppose to be are very different. But I wouldn't want a direct democracy. On the whole, the American people scare the living crap out of me. These are people that have a difficult time walking and chewing gum.
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2007, 04:30:24 PM »
are you sure you want direct democracy?

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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2007, 05:23:26 PM »
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Isn't RP supposed to be somewhat of an exception to that rule?:t

They all "claim" to be an exception....They are all liars....and cheats....playing the Im differant card works on some...but for me....I don't trust a dog catcher if he had to get in on votes. Someones dog took a screwng in the process.
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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2007, 06:56:10 PM »
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They all "claim" to be an exception....They are all liars....and cheats....playing the Im differant card works on some...but for me....I don't trust a dog catcher if he had to get in on votes. Someones dog took a screwng in the process.


RP actually is the exception to the rule. However, because he says what he believes his chance of getting elected by the mainstream "show me more government" population is fairly slim. He certainly isn't saying what he should to be elected. Not even spinning his beliefs to any great degree to make them sound more mainstream.

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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2007, 08:19:53 PM »
And that's what makes him so dangerous to the other candidates.
Heck I'm not even an American, and I want to vote for him!:aok
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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2007, 09:58:40 PM »
Crypto Islamofascist in a suit and dumbo ears.

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« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2007, 12:13:57 AM »
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You seriously have to be kidding. So who's fault is it the country has become so screwed up under Bush? Is it also the fault of the Republican controlled House and Senate?


So your saying the economy has been going bad? Last I heard was the economy has been doing GREAT on his watch. Its now questionable since the Dems have gotten control of the House and Senate.
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« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2007, 12:16:45 AM »
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So your saying the economy has been going bad? Last I heard was the economy has been doing GREAT on his watch. Its now questionable since the Dems have gotten control of the House and Senate.


I love the confusion between the word "economy" (profit) and living standard (how well the commoner lives). :D

Must be what a Yale MB degree buys. ;)

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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2007, 06:38:09 AM »
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And that's what makes him so dangerous to the other candidates.
Heck I'm not even an American, and I want to vote for him!:aok
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« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2007, 08:34:17 AM »
saxman..  I don't think the liberal socialists who voted for him were that thrilled when he backed down because of polls.

by your reasoning.. we should just elect a statue.. when the statue needed to "vote" he would just let the little computer in him link up with the latest poll.

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« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2007, 09:05:59 AM »
to the left, it is nothing but a popularity contest .. no spine needed
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« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2007, 09:19:36 AM »
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I love the confusion between the word "economy" (profit) and living standard (how well the commoner lives). :D

Must be what a Yale MB degree buys. ;)


A good economy helps increase the living standard.

Probably why the ONLY issue that you liberals have to use against Bush is Iraq ans your losing it because things are starting to improve over there.
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« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2007, 12:26:35 PM »
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zero experience .. hope to heck we are not that stupid to elect such a rookie but I am not that sure we are not


He has been a Senator for more than 2 years.

Abraham Lincoln served a single two year term in the House before he was president.

(That single comparison is the only one offered in this post)
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« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2007, 12:45:23 PM »
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So your saying the economy has been going bad? Last I heard was the economy has been doing GREAT on his watch. Its now questionable since the Dems have gotten control of the House and Senate.


Are you on crack? That's a serious question btw.. How anyone could watch what bush has done to our budget the last 6 years along with everything else.. Then some how manage to come back and blame it on Democrats.. Is way beyond me.

News flash buddy running the national debit into the biggest it's ever been in the history of this country and managing to be the first president to double it and do it in his first 6 years isn't exactly great for the economy.

Causing inflation to go up so much that the dollar can't even compete on the world market isn't exactly great for the long term economy.

You do understand that Bush and co has been subsidizing this economy and his massive debit via Saudi and Chinese loans don't you? Who do you think is going to have to pay for that? What do you think happens when they decide they don't want to risk loaning anymore money because we already can't pay them back?


Just wait until everything else starts costing more because of it. I guess you will blame that on the Democrats as well.

Bush and co has run this country into the ground with their massive spending and we will all be paying for it along with your grandchildren for many years to come.
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