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« Reply #90 on: December 15, 2007, 01:04:20 PM »
We can start with your apology.

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« Reply #91 on: December 15, 2007, 01:21:56 PM »
Lol, I don't think so.

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« Reply #92 on: December 15, 2007, 01:28:05 PM »
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Lol, I don't think so.


It was wrags thread you hijacked.

You at least owe him an apology... then you can work on the others.

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« Reply #93 on: December 15, 2007, 01:37:28 PM »
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I know it must be difficult for you to lose an argument with me  


We may never know if that is true or not.
At least it can`t be discerned up to this point.
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« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2007, 01:53:24 PM »
This small Northern European nation was invaded by Germany in April 1940. On June 10, 1940, Norway surrendered.

About 5,000 Norwegian soldiers had been lost.

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The Phony War ended on the night of April 8, 1940 when British warships mined the fjords of Norway to prevent Swedish iron ore from reaching Germany. The Norwegian Ambassador to London protested, but within hours the Allies learned of a massive German thrust through Denmark that was already landing in Norway. Denmark surrendered the same day to save herself, losing only a few soldiers.
What seemed like an incredibly swift response to Britain’s Norwegian minelaying was actually the culmination of months of planning. German paratroops secured airfields for air transports, and the German Navy sortied to cover destroyers with ski troops. A German landing in Oslo was driven off when the command heavy cruiser Blücher was sunk in the harbor, buying a short reprieve for the Norwegian government. But German merchant ships loaded with supplies and left in the fjords before the invasion sustained the rapidly moving land forces coming up from the south. The German paratroops were especially stunning to the Allies, who did not have anything like those formations at that time. Tough fighters, they would hold until relieved by the advancing ground forces.

British and French troops were hastily assembled and sent to Norway. Almost as soon as they landed they were forced to turn around or surrender, as the Germans swiftly moved through the country. Norwegian King Haakon VII left the country and set up a Government-in-exile in London, financed with Royal Norwegian gold. By the time of the invasion of France in May 1940, Norway had surrendered.
The French and the British, both reeling form the defeat at Norway, pledged not make a separate peace with Germany. This agreement would have serious implications two months later after the Germans invaded France.

During the battle, the German Kriegsmarine lost half of their destroyers and several cruisers. Their surface fleet was no longer able to confront the British Royal Navy. In time, more German surface fleets would lunch, and the ships damaged in Norway would be repaired.

But these ships would not be ready in time to cover the invasion of Britain. Operation Seelöwe (Sea Lion) would not proceed — the needed escorts were on the bottom of Narvik Harbor.

Norway was an important source of resources for Germany, and an operational base for U-boats throughout the war. Her surface units would hide in the fjords to escape Allied detection and bombing. The German heavy water research, a prerequisite for an atomic bomb, was based in Norway. A Norwegian SS unit was formed and fought on the Eastern Front.

Many Norwegian naval units escaped to Britain and served with distinction throughout the war. Norwegian resistance cells were difficult for the Germans to track in the snowy forests, and gave important intelligence to the Allies.

The Allies’ efforts to force Hitler into thinking that an invasion of Norway was imminent kept large forces tied down in Norway, preventing them from assisting their country as the Red Army and the British and the Americans invaded Germany from the East and West.

Hmmmmm... History may soon repeat itself with the Soviets taking Norway.

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« Reply #95 on: December 15, 2007, 01:54:58 PM »
C'mon Viking...

We await your spin on this.

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« Reply #96 on: December 15, 2007, 02:29:36 PM »
Lol, talk about a hijack AWMac! Don't you owe somebody an apology now? :lol

Btw. Norway never surrendered in WWII. :)

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« Reply #97 on: December 15, 2007, 02:32:29 PM »
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We may never know if that is true or not.
At least it can`t be discerned up to this point.


Aww C'mon, don't be such a sore loser. ;)

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« Reply #98 on: December 15, 2007, 02:40:33 PM »
Well Holden, do you actually support the Chechnyans and/or the Taliban?

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« Reply #99 on: December 15, 2007, 03:12:09 PM »
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Lol, talk about a hijack AWMac! Don't you owe somebody an apology now? :lol

Btw. Norway never surrendered in WWII. :)


On June 10, 1940, Norway surrendered.

Hate to break yer heart... I don't write History I just read it.

Waiting for the apologies to begin.

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« Reply #100 on: December 15, 2007, 03:20:19 PM »
Battle for Norway (9 April – June 10 1940):
• Norwegian mentally & physically unprepared.
• See account of Sigrid Undset regarding escape through
Norway during 1st 3 weeks of war.
• Troops unprepared and ill-equipped.
• After 3weeks of fighting, Southern Norway surrenders.
• Battle continued in Northern Norway; where the
Germans were held back at Narvik
• Norwegian Army assisted by (poorly organized) British,
French and some Polish troops.
• Late May 1940; German victories in Northern France,
meant evacuation of Allied troops from Norway
(Germany had invaded France May 10th)
• June 10, 1940, Norway surrenders to Germany
(King Haakon and his ministers fled to London 7 June;
Government in Exile established by “Elverum Mandate”.

Naw Norway never surrendered once... not once....twice.

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« Reply #101 on: December 15, 2007, 04:03:11 PM »
Norway did not surrender, they gave the Germans a welcoming party.

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« Reply #102 on: December 15, 2007, 04:28:13 PM »
That thought crossed my mind also...

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« Reply #103 on: December 15, 2007, 06:34:15 PM »
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I know it must be difficult for you to lose an argument with me ... I can sympathize, but now you're just being pathetic.


Edit: And yes, to me at least they are indeed irrelevant.


Sorry for being away, I had something important to do.

Lose an argument?

You asked for somebody who recognized Chechnya, and I listed two.  You asked for somebody who recognized the Taliban, I gave you three.

Holden 5,  Viking 0

Unless we are playing golf, high score wins.

Whether I support the Taliban, Chechnya, or the present government of Bangladesh is indeed irrelevant to the fact that I gave you five government recognitions that you thought didn't exist.

That you do not believe in them does not change the facts.

You thinking Saudi Arabia is irrelevant is truely pathetic.
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« Reply #104 on: December 15, 2007, 06:34:51 PM »
Sorry I have to ruin your fun gents. ;)

"German ships sailed up the fjord leading to Oslo, reaching the Drøbak Narrows (Drøbaksundet). In the early morning of April 9, the gunners at Oscarsborg Fortress fired on the leading ship, the Blücher, which had been illuminated by spotlights at about 0515hrs. Within two hours, the ship, unable to maneuver in the narrow fjord, was sunk with about 600-1,000 men. The now obvious threat from the fortress delayed the rest of the naval invasion group long enough for the Royal family and Parliament to be evacuated, along with the national treasury. As a result, Norway never surrendered to the Germans, leaving the Quisling government illegitimate and permitting Norway to participate as an Ally in the war, rather than as a conquered nation."

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