What if...

[Tigeress]

What if... a limited head count (50 of the most powerful) bipartisan effort by today's left and right political party heavyweight politicians were to draw up, behind closed doors, a binding and brand new US Constitution that would replace the old one and its present amendments?

What do you think it would say?  …or, not say?

TIGERESS

[AKIron]

Something much like it says now but with the inclusion of a Soviet type clause wherein all of the above is subject to the needs of the state.

[Mojava]

I don't think thats a very good idea.  Nothing wrong with the constitution we have,  if anything we should hold our government accountable for following it.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by Tigeress
What if... a limited head count (50 of the most powerful) bipartisan effort by today's left and right political party heavyweight politicians were to draw up, behind closed doors, a binding and brand new US Constitution that would replace the old one and its present amendments?

What do you think it would say?  …or, not say?

TIGERESS

NOT! I do not believe there is a sinlge politician out there who would write such a document strictly in the best interest of the country.  I believe every last one of them, left and right, would try to tweak it to satisfy some special interest group or some voting block, imagined or real.

What my fantasy about politics is, Tigress, is we get rid of every single career politician in office, all the way down to the clerk of the smallest city, and start over. IMHO, the federal govt is bloated w/ lifelong politician who long ago stopped doing what's best for the country. Now they simply do whatever the lastest Zogby poll or loudest whiners tell them to do. I'm talking about both sides of the aisle here. The failure of the federal govt to get much of anything done the last several years disgusts me.

[Tigeress]

Originally posted by Mojava
I don't think thats a very good idea.  Nothing wrong with the constitution we have,  if anything we should hold our government accountable for following it.

Ahhhh... Agreed.

We need to protect and preserve our Constitution and Bill of Rights as they are today.

Rather, the question inquires what might be drawn up in secret and enacted as a replacement Constitution by the left/right power block given the opportunity to do so without accountability to the American public.

TIGERESS

Edit: Declaring Martial Law in the event of a WMD attack or a Flu pandemic would be an easy way to bury the Constitution.

[lasersailor184]

A military style government would be met at the tip of my .30-06.






The whole concept of government needs to be scrapped.  It's always been a joke.

[Donzo]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
The whole concept of government needs to be scrapped.  It's always been a joke.

And your suggested replacement would be...?

[Tigeress]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
A military style government would be met at the tip of my .30-06.

Benjamin Franklin once said, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

In my view, to prevent martial law in the first place with new restrictions is better than to deal with it after the fact.

What would this founding father think about our nation's current state of affairs regarding the vulnerability of our Constitution?

TIGERESS

[lazs2]

I believe that they would all agree that the only "rights" the "people" should have would be the ones that those in power granted them.

lazs

[Eagler]

they are too fat and bald to try anything that serious - they'd rather wave at each other in the toilet stalls

[Thruster]

I can see the product of such an effort would be the most confusing and nebulous document ever created. It would make our tax code seem like an elementary school primer.

The B.o.R. as well as the other output of our early Congress was a product of men who were by and large cut from similar cloth. They had a consistent view on faith, duty and the effects of man's governance of his fellows.

Not so today. Our society is so different from the one that created those principles that I bet they wouldn't even agree on what language it should be written in.

Our Founding Fathers would puke if they were aware of what we as a nation have allowed to happen to the documents they labored so earnestly to draft.

And they would be right. We should have protected our Bill of Rights and Constitution as they were written. Granted I'm not the expert on the history of The Constitution that I would like to be but I can't think of one amendment that has proven to be a benefit for America, I'm probably wrong but at the moment I'm at a loss.

[Neubob]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
A military style government would be met at the tip of my .30-06.






The whole concept of government needs to be scrapped.  It's always been a joke.

Under your new regime, will I still be able to have cars with large V8 and V12 engines? I'll gladly invest the money to convert them to burn biofuels.

[moot]

Originally posted by Tigeress
Benjamin Franklin once said, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

In my view, to prevent martial law in the first place with new restrictions is better than to deal with it after the fact.

What would this founding father think about our nation's current state of affairs regarding the vulnerability of our Constitution?

TIGERESS

Don't quote Franklin around Sailor, IIRC he's one of his direct ascendants or something.

[AWMac]

Originally posted by moot
Don't quote Franklin around Sailor, IIRC he's one of his direct ascendants or something.

Or a descendant from Thomas Jefferson.

[NitroFish]

It would be more about the government and society. Less about individual's rights and freedoms.

That possibility is why I want constitutionalists in the Supreme Court. Follow and interpret the Constitution, don't make policy.