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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2007, 09:40:33 AM »
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Oh BS.. Republicans use the dirtiest tactics out there and the Dems hardly ever say anything about it. The fact is this happened and it was brought to public eye.

Politically motivated? Ummm yea I'm sure it was.. Well guess what it still happened and he abused his powers for personal gain.


There is no proof at all here that he abused his powers.   All you have are allegations made by a disgruntled former employee that Huckabee fired.

You are conducting nothing less than a Witch Hunt here with your remarks.  Someone accuses Huckabee of being a Witch, and you just chime in and repeat the allegation.   "Witch", you cry out.

I think Huckabee is strong enough to get through all of this mud-slinging.   And I think that it may hopefully backfire.   The American people are getting sick and tired of this sort of stuff.

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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2007, 11:19:46 AM »
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Does timing matter in a case like this? If it happened 5 years ago or 2 weeks ago it makes no diffrence. It shows he abused his powers to get his kid out of trouble.

I mean hell if it's for speeding or a party then hell who cares, but this is a pretty sick freaking crime.


Actually it shows nothing. There has been no corroboration at this time. It is an allegation of wrongdoing, not proof.

In addition to that, have you ever heard the phrase, "vast right wing conspiracy"? Do you know who used it while campaigning and what party they belong to?

I'm not a Huckabee fan, I just find the dirty campaigning going on to be rather juvenile.
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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2007, 11:24:17 AM »
Hillary knows nothing about it, it must have been her staff.

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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2007, 11:42:50 AM »
I'd like to know how Huckabee is a "social moderate"?

This seems much more disturbing to me:



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Gov. Mike Huckabee said Wednesday that his religious background and belief in redemption played a key role in the high number of state prisoners he has pardoned or turned loose early.


Religious belief is fine by me, but overriding civil justice based on religion is dead wrong.

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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2007, 11:43:58 AM »
Sigh...

I hate politics sometimes :(

I wish the election were over... if only to avoid stories like this.

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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2007, 11:44:48 AM »
It's okay, you can still vote for him -- DNA skips a generation.  :confused:
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2007, 07:30:35 PM »
Sometimes it's hard to be a parent:
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=44921

This is just a silly mistake, but family meals must get kinda strained these days.
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« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2007, 10:53:11 AM »
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I'd like to know how Huckabee is a "social moderate"?

This seems much more disturbing to me:
 
Religious belief is fine by me, but overriding civil justice based on religion is dead wrong.

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This is the thing that I love about Mike Huckabee.  BOTH the Far Right and the Far Left are attacking him!!   Romney is especially hitting him big time with attack ads now, even calling him a liberal.  The right wing of the Repubican party is clearly scared of him, and that is why their websites, like the one you reference here, are attacking him now.

Showing compassion and mercy are signs that someone is a more socially aware person.  These are universal qualities that most people admire.   Although Christ taught them to his followers, Christians have no monopoly on these qualities.

I would rather have someone in office who is too compassionate, than one who is lacking in this quality.

I also love how Huckabee is ignoring all of these attacks, and staying on his positive message.

Please visit Huckabee's website, and donate money to his campaign.   He does not have the big wallet of Romney, nor the fat cats supporting Guiliani.  He needs our support.

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/

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« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2007, 11:18:38 AM »
One thing I like about Huckabee:

http://thebellwetherdaily.blogspot.com/2007/12/mike-huckabee-on-faith-honest-atheists.html

He "prefers honest atheists to phony believers" and describes a roll of religion in the public eye that sounds in-line with the constitution.  This is certainly better sounding than some of his older writings that attacked "unbelievers", so it's a positive development.
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« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2007, 11:18:45 AM »
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Sometimes it's hard to be a parent:
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=44921

This is just a silly mistake, but family meals must get kinda strained these days.


This is also a rather old story.   This happened way back in April, many months ago.   People certainly are having a hard time digging up dirt on Huckabee, if this is the best they can do.

American Politics are truly amazing.   Our candidates really don't have to come up with any plans to improve things in our country.  They can side step issues with double-speak ( like Hillary did in that debate over drivers licenses for illegal aliens in New York ), and just put out "feel-good" slogans that are really meaningless.

McCain is way too old to be running for President at this time.   I think he would have made the best choice for President back in 2000, but not now.   He would replace Reagan as the oldest elected President, if he was elected next year.   Reagan was 69 when he was elected back in 1980, while McCain would be 72 if elected.  His health is not all that great either, due to the years of torture and abuse he suffered as a prisoner during the Vietnam War.

Giulani seems to be totally one dimensional, and has made major flip-flops on issues.   Romney has done the same with some big flip-flops too, and is way too far to the right for me.  If the Republicans pick him, it will be a repeat of Goldwater's campaign in 1964.

People are getting so sick of both attack ads and smear campaigns, that I think we are going to see a change in politics in the USA this year, and find out that they are now going to back-fire, instead of being effective.

In fact, I think that the CBS 60 Minutes Hoax with all of those forged National Guard documents regarding Bush's service from an anonymous source may be what finally turned the tide against this sort of stuff.   In fact, I think that incident may well have made the difference in getting Bush re-elected in the last campaign.

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« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2007, 11:22:11 AM »
Didn't Huckabee raise his hand when the candidates were asked whether they didn't believe in evolution?

Do you really want a silly flat-earther for president?

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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2007, 11:28:08 AM »
Plenty of the folks here don't believe in evolution either, so that might not be as much of a zinger as you'd hope.  I'd guess there are plenty of biblical literalists here too, as in "7 days means 7 days".

....but that's beside the point.  Evolution is not a political discussion, it's a scientific one.  There's no requirement to me that a presidential candidate believe in evolution, as long as he/she doesn't allow this belief or lack of belief to affect their actions.  If they act constitutionally, the end result should be fine.  I have faith in the integrity of our Constitution.  It's my Seldon Plan (geek reference).
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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2007, 11:32:43 AM »
Unfortunately I get the Seldon reference... how scary is that?

Sorry, but I expect our president to be more than a just a guy who stays within the constitution. He/She needs to be a leader and an inspiration to the country. Personal beliefs are very important, especially if they make him/her lean away from knowledge and toward mysticism.
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« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2007, 11:58:11 PM »
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« Reply #44 on: December 25, 2007, 07:47:10 AM »
To those of you who have only seen the Huckabee of the campaign trail, let me remind you of what Bill Clinton told the nation's democrats about George Bush;  "Don't underestimate this man."

Save for his stances on the Second Amendment and abortion, Huckabee is a democrat, composed of slathers of social concern.  He has more in common with Bill Clinton than just the same home town.  He has the same smarmy, "feel-your-pain" persona, which seems to play so well in the South, the Midwest, and rural areas of the north.

Yet, don't let his soft-spoken ways fool you....the man can play hard-ball when he has to.  Just ask Jim Guy Tucker, former governor of the state, one of those convicted of corruption in the Whitewater scandal, who had to resign from office, and who toyed with the idea of staying anyway.  Huckabee mobilized the press and public opinion and the powers of the state government to lever the man from office, and made him look like a rank amateur politician in the process.

Another trait he shares with Clinton is an inability to take responsibility for his actions.  He has yet to own up to his role in the Wayne Dumond affair.  Make no mistake about it, the application of pressure by Huckabee is the main reason this slimey piece of humanity was released from prison.  Dumond was guilty as hell, but Huckabee didn't care what the recommendations from the parole board were....he went into social moderate mode, and pressured them to release him.  Which they did.  The scumbag left the state.....and killed two people in Missouri.

I've got other reasons for not voting for the man, stemming from his bigger-is-better, urban-trumps-rural, small-towns-got-no-reason-to-exist, mentality.  That might not be enough to keep some from voting for him, but it is for me.

I hope he falls flat of his face in the election.  Hell, I might even have to vote for a democrat .  What a conundrum....Hillary or Huckabee.

Guess I could always abstain.