Author Topic: CIA jet crashes with 4 tons coke onboard (Read 2949 times)

Arlo · « **Reply #60 on:** December 18, 2007, 07:35:32 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Stop, I'm stupid.

Fixed.

Arlo · « **Reply #61 on:** December 18, 2007, 07:37:57 PM »

Hmmmm ... I don't see you laughing. Ahem.

AKIron · « **Reply #62 on:** December 18, 2007, 07:39:18 PM »

Some people don't know funny when they're submerged in it.

RedTop · « **Reply #63 on:** December 18, 2007, 07:56:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Arlo
Ahhhh .... opinion without actual experience. Noted as.

I find the alternative "black and white ... no, now it's grey" moral judgement of some political spheres a bit too convenient for their own purpose. Prior to the Bush administration there was no question about what was right or wrong when it came to our own practices regarding torture and the Geneva convention (which we never felt prone to openly and proudly discard at a whim). We certainly didn't try to excuse lowering our standards by comparing them to the enemy's. The UCMJ made it most clear how we were supposed to keep our standards above a certain level. CIA kept their dirt in the dark (and apparently they were better at it then).

I know what right is and, unfortunately (and ironically), there's quite a few on the right who may claim so but they're not very good at proving it.

Hi Arlo

Would you say that before the Bush whitehouse that things were a bit differant in regards to terror? Just wondering

Slash27 · « **Reply #64 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:01:47 PM »

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Originally posted by RedTop
Wow....thats really all that can be said.....Wow

Angry little putz isnt he.

Arlo · « **Reply #65 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:02:28 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Some people don't know funny when they're submerged in it.

Ain't that the truth. Keep stroking. Ahem.

RedTop · « **Reply #66 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:04:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Slash27
Angry little putz isnt he.

Bro, That maybe the understatment of the year:lol

Arlo · « **Reply #67 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:07:43 PM »

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Originally posted by RedTop
Hi Arlo

Would you say that before the Bush whitehouse that things were a bit differant in regards to terror? Just wondering

The only difference was they finally succeeded in bringing down the towers under W's watch. Other than that, I suppose the GWOT did help increase terrorist recruitment. Neither of which excuses us remolding ourselves in *their* image in any way shape or form. Of course I suppose we can spread democracy by force (how does that work, again?). Think about it.

RedTop · « **Reply #68 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:10:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Arlo
The only difference was they finally succeeded in bringing down the towers under W's watch. Other than that, I suppose the GWOT did help increase terrorist recruitment. Neither of which excuses us remolding ourselves in *their* image in any way shape or form. Of course I suppose we can spread democracy by force (how does that work, again?). Think about it.

I have thought about it. Many many times. I appreciate your answer. Thanks

Ripsnort · « **Reply #69 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:28:37 PM »

Yep, just had my "freedoms" destroyed the other day crock-full-of-it..damn government gave me a speeding ticket!

Arlo · « **Reply #70 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:46:41 PM »

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Originally posted by RedTop
I have thought about it. Many many times. I appreciate your answer. Thanks

And I respect your pov. I'm all for dealing with terrorists. And, though there are friends of mine with differing opinion, I'm sure we all want it done right.

Dago · « **Reply #71 on:** December 18, 2007, 09:14:04 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
No but lets get real here.. I'm pretty sure the CIA isn't just going to go rent a jet from someone whom they don't have a clue about. To then transport prisoners whom are supposedly so dangerous they they can destroy our freedoms.

If you rent a car from Hertz if it does happen to break down, it's pretty unlikely that it will result in a crash in the middle of the Atlantic ocean.

So considering the risks involved I'd bet, the CIA most likely had a fairly reasonable understanding of whom owned and operated the jet when they used it.

Seems to me you are making a lot of assumptions based on your knowledge of Tom Clancy novels more than real life experience or fact.

Making assumptions based on zero real life experience in any situation is pretty close to worthless.

Furball · « **Reply #72 on:** December 19, 2007, 02:55:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
1 ton of Heron? That's a chitload of

I beat you on page 1. Haw haw!

Save the Herons from the CIA!

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Originally posted by Furball
so it wasnt the cocaine that mexico turned away, but the downright disgraceful heron smuggling

crockett · « **Reply #73 on:** December 19, 2007, 05:52:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Dago
Seems to me you are making a lot of assumptions based on your knowledge of Tom Clancy novels more than real life experience or fact.

Making assumptions based on zero real life experience in any situation is pretty close to worthless.

Maybe you should re-read my posts above and quit making assumptions yourself.

lazs2 · « **Reply #74 on:** December 19, 2007, 08:14:26 AM »

water boarding appears to be torture to me. I don't believe that governments should be allowed to torture people.

lazs