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Offline croduh

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« on: January 03, 2008, 07:11:32 AM »



R4M rocket from a 262 ripped this one apart!

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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2008, 07:46:38 AM »
Speechless.:(
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2008, 07:49:43 AM »
wow.

waist gunners must have had it rough...
 400 yrds on my tail, right where i want you... [/size]

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2008, 09:11:09 AM »
Are you sure it was the R4M rockets?

I read that it was just the 4 x 30mm cannon, as I have seen this image before.
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Offline manurin

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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2008, 09:19:53 AM »
Isn't that the waist gunner flying close right to the tail??

amazing pic!!
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2008, 09:31:03 AM »
I don't mean to sound calloused, but it looks fake for many reasons. Photochop of some IL2 screenshot, perhaps? I don't know. Just doesn't look real to me.

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2008, 10:11:10 AM »
I just took the photo from an another forum, where guys have proven that it's not fake although it does looks very unreal at first glance;)

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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2008, 10:15:55 AM »
Take from this book, I think.

Pg. 46, direct flack 88 hit.

http://www.amazon.ca/Gun-Camera-World-War-Photography/dp/0760310130

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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2008, 10:39:58 AM »
Nope, not a flak hit.
Me262s reached Liberators of 20th Wing as they made for jet airfield targets on 4 April 1945. Three 448th BG aircraft were lost. This one was torn completely in half.

"Lt. Robert Mains was a pilot of a replacement crew that joined the 448th 714th Sq in Sep 44.
Lt. Robert L. Mains (P) Lt. Allen L. Lake (CP)
Lt. John B. Hankin Jr (N)
Lt. Jon W Johnson (B)
Cpl Charles E Culp Jr Cpl Harry G. Allen
Cpl Charles H Daman
Cpl Frank S Merkovich
Sgt. Antonio Munoz Jr
Cpl Anthony C Villari
were the crew members.

ED CHU was a tailgunner in the 448th and saw Charlies plane go downand thought for sure no-one survived. But fortunately for Chuck he was able to jump out of the bomb bay doors and get his chute to open about 2000ft above ground close but a safe landing even though he was captured by enemy forces. The surviving member was Charles E Cupp Jr."

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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2008, 10:55:15 AM »
When you see your tail gunner infront of you, you know you have a problem. Musta been one heck of a shot! Rockets aren't easy to aim at bombers in AH2, so in real life....

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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2008, 12:00:41 PM »
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Musta been one heck of a shot! Rockets aren't easy to aim at bombers in AH2, so in real life....


The R4M are of a different kind than the ones we have in AH2. They had a trajectory very much comparable  with the 30mm MK108 and used the same sight. Also they were shot in volleys of 24, which has a more "shotgun" effect.
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2008, 09:18:40 PM »
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The R4M are of a different kind than the ones we have in AH2. They had a trajectory very much comparable  with the 30mm MK108 and used the same sight. Also they were shot in volleys of 24, which has a more "shotgun" effect.


They launched all at once?
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2008, 09:48:15 PM »
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They launched all at once?


Yup. Or better said in four volleys of 6 rockets each, with a less than 0.1 second interval.
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2008, 03:09:59 AM »
Well known photo.  Horrific.  Sad to think folks are dying at that instant :(
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2008, 09:09:36 AM »
If ever modeled in AH I'm sure we'd get to fire them off 1 at a time. Look at all other rockets. Most were hard-wired to fire 2 at a time. In AH you can fire however many you want.