Author Topic: NH GOP Drops Sponsorship Of FOX News Debate (Read 1987 times)

texasmom · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:06:18 PM »

Here's your whining:The whole idea that Fox News is responsible for spoon feeding every little tiny tid-bit of 'fair & balanced' information is responsibilty dodging, blame shifting crap. Yes, it's whining. If you don't like what they have to offer ~ who cares? They're not going to be casting your vote. Find your own information on your own choice of candidate.

It's not the politics that I'm considering frivolous ~ it's the whining of others about Fox that's frivolous. You're only responsible for your own vote moot ~ not for the vote of everyone else. So get the info you need to make an informed choice, and then act on it.

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Originally posted by moot
...and then say I am telling you what you mean to say.

That's mighty big of you to tell me what I mean to say! Thanks!

How about you just accept that I mean what I say the first time instead of turning it around & saying that I mean to say something else! LOL

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:20:52 PM »

Where did Ron Paul finish in Iowa? And where did Fred Thompson finish?

Tango · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:22:22 PM »

Moot, you better let it go, Bud. I don't think you want to anger a Texas mom.

Bodhi · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:23:50 PM »

Ya know, I really want to be amazed at the amount of bias shown by both the right and left wing media. Yet, sadly, it is so common place now I can not be.

moot · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:33:05 PM »

Where did I say Fox is responsible for spoon feeding every little tid-bit of fair and balanced info? Fox is a commercial enterprise, not an ethical one. I never said that, but you thought I did because you sure like the idea that people are whiners.
Fox is only after cash, and the same way Arpajo doesn't deserve any positive publicity as a positive influence on the public he's supposed to protect and serve, Fox doesn't deserve anything more than being called for what they are: biased press. The same sort of journalism that journos make up or taint with anything that will make them more cash.

What I did mean was that it's condemnable to take Fox's bias, considering their ubiquity in news media, as a status quo not worth denouncing.
And you pick up only on the denounciation, and call it whining.

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That's mighty big of you to tell me what I mean to say! Thanks!

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You spend an awful lot of time telling me what I'm saying!

which is pretty explicitely saying just what it's saying... Apparently you can't do much besides call anyone pointing out the flaws in arguments "whiners".. You think the only useful action is a vote and can't recognize that shining light on BS like Fox's or the hollywood-ish glamour and sound bite superfluity of today's political debate is effectively a vote if it makes people aware of the deceptiveness of the status quo, so I'm not going to derail the thread in vain any more.

Tango - what's she going to do? Argue? Not...

bj229r · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:48:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Where did Ron Paul finish in Iowa? And where did Fred Thompson finish?

Mike Huckabee     ..... 40,841      ....34.4%
Mitt Romney    .........29,949    .....25.2%
Fred D. Thompson    .15,904    .....13.4%
John McCain    .........15,559    ....13.1%
Ron Paul    ..............11,817 .....10.0.%
Rudolph W. Giuliani    .4,097    .......3.5%
Duncan Hunter    ......524 ...   .....0.4%
Tom Tancredo    .......5    ...........0.0%
98% reporting | Updated 11:29 PM ET

alskahawk · « **Reply #21 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:09:00 PM »

Even though Ron Paul finished below Fred Thompson he should be in the debates. Fred Thompson is barely making a effort he survived Iowa because he's a well know actor. The only thing he's done in New Hampshire is the debate. No appearances just the debate. Most of the time he looks like he would just rather not be there.

Not a Ron Paul or a Fred Thompson supporter.

rpm · « **Reply #22 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:15:15 PM »

Here's the question you should be asking: Is Rudy going to be included?

crockett · « **Reply #23 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:27:05 PM »

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Originally posted by bj229r
Mike Huckabee     ..... 40,841      ....34.4%
Mitt Romney    .........29,949    .....25.2%
Fred D. Thompson    .15,904    .....13.4%
John McCain    .........15,559    ....13.1%
Ron Paul    ..............11,817 .....10.0.%
Rudolph W. Giuliani    .4,097    .......3.5%
Duncan Hunter    ......524 ...   .....0.4%
Tom Tancredo    .......5    ...........0.0%
98% reporting | Updated 11:29 PM ET

Yet RP at over 3 times the votes of Giuliani and he's invited. As I said I'm not a RP fan boy, but he should have been invited.

rpm · « **Reply #24 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:43:09 PM »

Well, if Rudy is being included and RP excluded it's clear Fox is trying to manipulate the election. Fair and balanced, huh?

LePaul · « **Reply #25 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:47:15 PM »

Ah the Foxnews pig pile

No controversy when ABC news didnt invite him?

moot · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2008, 01:00:14 AM »

You're stuck behind a cultural barrier. You won't understand what I'm telling you no matter how I put it.

Rolex · « **Reply #27 on:** January 06, 2008, 01:30:40 AM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
Ah the Foxnews pig pile

No controversy when ABC news didnt invite him?

ABC didn't invite him?

Fox thrives on controversy, and all news organizations would be petrified if Ron Paul is elected:

Anchor: And now over to our Washington correspondent for todays political news.
Reporter: Well, Sally, nothing happened at the White House today. Nothing to report.
Anchor: What?! How did the nation survive? Are Americans panicked at this? How can the White House do nothing?
Reporter: Well, somehow the country kept right on going.
Anchor: How about Congress? What happened on the hill today?
Reporter: Nothing, Sally.
Anchor: What!? But, but what about the new civil war in Bulganistan? Aren't they going to do anything about it? Hold hearings or send a delegation?
Reporter: No. No one really cares about it here on the hill, Sally. It's their problem.
Anchor: But, but... how about the UN?
Reporter: Since we left the UN, no one cares, Sally. Nothing to report here, except the economy is doing great and everyone is happy since the income tax was abolished.
Anchor: What's the latest on the terror front?
Reporter: Nothing to report.
Anchor: But what about the fear gripping the nation since Homeland Security was abolished?
Reporter: No fear, Sally. Just billions and billions of dollars saved. Airlines are hiring more people and buying more planes. Prices are dropping and airlines are adding back new routes that were canceled years ago since profits are up, making it more convenient for Americans.
Anchor: But, but... Any news likely tomorrow from the White House or Congress?
Reporter: Not really, Sally. Things are quiet. Maybe things will pick up in a few months...
Anchor: Now over to our nightly war report.
War Reporter: Nothing to report, Sally.
Anchor: sheesh.

LePaul · « **Reply #28 on:** January 06, 2008, 01:41:04 AM »

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ABC didn't invite him?

Nope

Rolex · « **Reply #29 on:** January 06, 2008, 01:47:18 AM »

Well, I'm thoroughly confused. I could have sworn Ron Paul was included in the ABC debate. Perhaps it was an exact replica of Ron Paul.