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Offline RoGenT

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« on: January 17, 2008, 06:52:48 PM »
I just bought the X52 and so far loving it. Still not used to the throttle and all the buttons; keep cutting throttle after I already overshot lol. I'm having problems getting mode 2 set up, any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2008, 06:58:12 PM »
LOL, i probably only use 10% of what it is capable of doing. :D

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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2008, 07:46:09 PM »
Are you using the SST or the ingame programming? You might also check the drivers that ship with the stick- I downloaded updated drivers from Saitek's website, which changed some things in AH, like the clutch button and slider.
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2008, 08:25:40 PM »
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LOL, i probably only use 10% of what it is capable of doing. :D


Same here. Dont even know if the mouse button thing on the throttle is compatable with AH
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2008, 09:45:27 PM »
It is, assuming you have all the drivers and what not installed for the mouse emulation. AH just thinks it's another USB mouse. Works well for mouselook.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2008, 11:51:35 PM »
It's a great stick. Controlling for nose bounce though is still my major complaint. Have tried everything, and it is still a biotch!!!!!!!!!!!! Without deadband and damping set WAY high I am pretty useless with this stick. (I have tried every curve known to man for rudder and pitch, to no avail.)

Nothing, but nothing, performs like a MSFFPro.

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2008, 12:58:54 AM »
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It's a great stick. Controlling for nose bounce though is still my major complaint. Have tried everything, and it is still a biotch!!!!!!!!!!!! Without deadband and damping set WAY high I am pretty useless with this stick. (I have tried every curve known to man for rudder and pitch, to no avail.)

Nothing, but nothing, performs like a MSFFPro.

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You can still buy them online.

http://www.gogamer.com/Microsoft-Sidewinder-Force-Feedback-2-Joystick-Joysticks_stcVVproductId27947627VVcatId444857VVviewprod.htm

I use the MS SW FF2 and I love the stick, but there have been no new drivers released for it since 2001. The old drivers that I can find wont install on XP or Vista, so you have to go with the windows default drivers.

My stick has a bad trigger and it was giving me trouble with the Force Feedback without having the right drivers. So I'm debating if I want to order a new one or buy the X52.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2008, 01:56:12 AM »
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Same here. Dont even know if the mouse button thing on the throttle is compatable with AH


It does but it is hard to use
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2008, 07:16:36 AM »
Wife walked in the door last weekend from a trip to the second hand stores.

Found you a new joystick she says. I unwrap the cord from a MS Sidewinder ForceFeedback stick and go, what did you pay for this?

2$ was it too much? No, dear you did just fine (hugs & kisses)

Its the Sidewinder FF Pro,  with the rotary throttle dial, gameport connection not USB. Appears to be a good shape.

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2008, 09:19:24 AM »
I have an old sidewinder from a lot of years ago. Now if I can only find the power cord.

                        The biggest problem with the X52 is the SST software. Ive had all kinds of problems mapping any command thats been programmed with 2 key strokes. Some work, some dont, some work in one profile but not another. If you have this problem try remapping in AH to one keystroke and then map into SST.

                      The views have to be mapped in AH. I cant map AH views in SST on Hat #1. It took me months to work out this Saitek stuff but now I can say I like it OK.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2008, 09:42:55 AM »
When I got my Saitek X52 (Non PRO) I got it compatible with AH in less than an hour. Never bothered with the SST Programming Software.

Works nice, love the slider! (Use it as the RPM control.)
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2008, 10:17:49 AM »
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It's a great stick. Controlling for nose bounce though is still my major complaint. Have tried everything, and it is still a biotch!!!!!!!!!!!!


It's not a great stick, it's an OK at best stick, and for exactly the reason you mention. A large part of the reason for this is that the stick has a design flaw.  Tension on the stick is provided by a springloaded ring that is pressed into a socket on the base, such that moving the stick slides the ring against the socket and compresses the spring.

This is cheap, and easy to manufacture, but an utterly braindead way to spring a stick meant for flying - because of how it's sprung, it takes the MOST force to start to move the stick away from center with a decreasing force to move it further along it's travel, rather than what should be the case, which is that it takes the LEAST amount of force to nudge it from center with an increase in force required as you travel further from center.  Hence, you can't help but overcorrect at center, where you need to be most precise.

I lubed mine with a plastic safe teflon-based lube purchased from Radio Shack, and it was much better, but I'm picky, and I still wasn't really happy.  When my final MSFF died (the hat switch buttons on it would last me only about 6 months, and because the assembly wears down, replacing them doesn't really help) I finally went with a CH Fighterstick.

The CH is not perfect, but it's been the best thing I've been able to find since the MSFF Pro, which was second only to the Logitech Wingman Force (when Logitech actually made something worth buying.)

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2008, 10:39:24 AM »
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Same here. Dont even know if the mouse button thing on the throttle is compatable with AH

I use to have it mapped but then when I moved from Italy to NC and built a new computer and did a clean install of everything it didn't work again.
I use it in Mode 1 on the joystick and program in AH itself.... that is all I need are the three modes in AH.  Works for me!:D
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 11:50:08 AM »
Question: are any of the CH sticks twisty for rudder?  Have heard you have to use pedals for all of them.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2008, 11:57:54 AM »
No, there's no twisty function for CH. I think they'd put Saitek out of business if they offered one.
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