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Offline B@tfinkV

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109 G14 - Ki84 - AA Talen
« on: January 19, 2008, 08:31:30 AM »
hey Talen, those were very fun fights. you asked me to post these for general viewing so i pasted the two fights into one .ahf file.


http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/G14_-_ki84.ahf


the first fight the ki84 was too sloppy in his defence and, realising too late that the G14 pilot knows his stuff, pays the price. second is much more drawn out, excelent flying by the G14. 84 has a distinct advantage in performance and is able to sit back and relax after the radiator hit. still could have gone both ways, very fun fights.

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008, 08:48:40 AM »
Isn't it AATalon?


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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2008, 09:01:25 AM »
not anymore wiseguy :cool:  if you watched the film you'd see
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2008, 10:09:42 AM »
Awww.I though i finally found your weak spelling spot:(

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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 12:25:56 PM »
I before E except after Sea?
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2008, 12:36:44 PM »
croduh's not wise....
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2008, 01:12:17 PM »
WOW, nice fight guys

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2008, 01:32:47 PM »
Good fighting Bat :aok . Can't wait to do it again sometime.

And thank's for hosting that film, didn't know on our second duel you were waiting for my engine to die. THAT'S why you were staying high :rolleyes: .

I'll make sure you don't nail my radiator anymore :) .

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2008, 01:37:25 PM »
Why is everyone against me?

waaah i go cry in the corner:cry

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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2008, 08:04:14 PM »
Great fight... Could tell that Bat was "warming up to the 84". Talon knew the g14 reallllly well.

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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2008, 08:08:41 PM »
definitely, he was on top form the whole way.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2008, 10:10:01 PM »
Thank's FX and Bat !

My primary rides are all of the 109 series, but my primary is the 109K.

I use the G14 from time to time, when i don't wanna shoot 30mms. Can still make her do a little something  :D .


Still a beginner luftwaffe pilot IMO but i'm learning fast.

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2008, 12:11:59 AM »
You kept the fight at your speed and that what makes the 109 shine.  It takes time to learn that..

Very clean 109 driving.

Bat was using the 84 about as aggressive as you can get.

Great dance..
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2008, 02:02:02 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by FX1

Bat was using the 84 about as aggressive as you can get.

Great dance..


Actually, IMHO Bat was less aggressive than I thought he should have been. Combat Trim was on the whole time... At speeds above 350 mph, you can't pull enough G to match the 109, unless you trim out the elevator heaviness.

Bat, trim it manually and you can build speed in a dive and still pull to black out. Keep the motor wound up, don't sacrifice E simply to get the flaps out. The Ki-84 will out-turn the G-14 without flaps between corner speed and 200 mph. The 109 needs at least 3 notches of flaps out to get any edge, but by then, you can get out 1 notch and take the advantage back.

A 109G-2 or 109F-4 will be a hard fight. Frankly, I'd take the 109F over the Ki-84 any day. However, the G-14 is less of a threat if Co-E, Co-alt.

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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2008, 09:03:09 AM »
thank you Widewing, great tips. The ki84 is such a fickle mistress, she has so many quirks that can be fatal if ignored. rest assured next time i find Talen in a 109 i will have to step up my game a notch or five!
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